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MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by ghrl »

jeremyjh wrote: post #165
gbalduzzi wrote: post #116

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I'm guessing the greatest reason behind each provider creating and agent harness is that (a) there is not a clear winner still and (b) it is harder to switch models with a competitor, as you also have to switch harness

But you really don't have to switch. MiMo Code has the same provider support as OpenCode. Even Claude Code you can use with any provider that exposes an anthropic API endpoint, which they all do.

Or by using a proxy, yeah. Personally I would still prefer a multi provider harness over CC when using it with another provider, if alone for the visible reasoning, model switcher, cost estimation and so on. So far I've only preferred CC when I needed to work with Jupyter Notebooks because it has built-in tools for that.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by digitaltrees »

devmor wrote: post #175
tw04 wrote: post #150

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Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

Public good isn’t a charity, and a business model that doesn’t contribute to the public good should not be allowed to exist.

Is it public good? Or is that a coincidence covering the real motive of an attempt to undermine the viability of American companies?

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by digitaltrees »

gandreani wrote: post #155
ignoramous wrote: post #129

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Wrote this eons ago: I fully expect Baidu and other tech giants on the Chinese shores to try and push the boundaries of technology. Silicon Valley (and the US) in general has always been the hot-bed of innovation. But with enormous increase in wealth in China (and to an extent in India), I can see these companies being more and more ambitious. Not long ago Andrew Ng of Coursera and Stanford AI Lab fame joined Baidu t…

"Death of Silicon Valley" in this case is such a funny perspective. Like, how twisted is the US's view of the market that they think "Competition? Oh no. Sound the alarms."

Except it’s not competition if US companies can’t access the Chinese market but Chinese companies can access the US market. Just like cars. America is not willing to compete with BYD. But we are 20 years into massive IP theft from China and the naive and short sided leadership in the US that basically traded our knowledge, design and manufacturing knowledge for cheap of shoring, and watch China execute spectacularly to take advantage of the opportunity.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by throwa356262 »

porphyra wrote: post #58

Pretty neat that you can just install it and start using it (at a Sonnet 4.6-level model) without needing to sign in or pay. Typically, Chinese websites are a big pain to log in or sign up because they require a +86 phone number due to legal reasons. Being able to use it without having to make an account is amazing for friction reduction. I could probably even just install it onto new machines to help with set up. I…

Xiaomi has been selling physical products to West through their websites for 10+ years now. I dont think you will encounter any issues here

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by denysvitali »

djsamseng wrote: post #65
denysvitali wrote: post #46

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Yes, but this has nothing to do with MiMo (the model). This is what Claude Code is to Claude

I found it relevant and actually just the information I was looking for. Having a highly recommended model behind the tool makes it worth further investigation.

Yes, MiMo is a great model - but it works well with Claude Code - so I don't think the harness is really going to make it shine even more

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by devmor »

digitaltrees wrote: post #182
devmor wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Public good isn’t a charity, and a business model that doesn’t contribute to the public good should not be allowed to exist.

Is it public good? Or is that a coincidence covering the real motive of an attempt to undermine the viability of American companies?

What?

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

tw04 wrote: post #150
tdesilva wrote: post #141

Good, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source…

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

The cloud provider isn't the harness, Terraform/OpenTofu/Pelumi and the abstractions you build using them are. The cloud provider is the LLM. It's not as fungible as the LLM and there's no direct comparison to egress costs of course, but that's moreso a problem with the metaphor.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by [deleted] »

tw04 wrote: post #150
tdesilva wrote: post #141

Good, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source…

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by cj »

ignoramous wrote: post #161
tw04 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

> That’s a charity, not a business model. Joel Spolsky in 2002 identified a major pattern in technology business & economics: The pattern of "commoditizing your complement", an alternative to vertical integration, where companies seek to secure a choke point or quasi-monopoly in products composed of many necessary & sufficient layers by dominating one layer while fostering so much competition in another layer above o…

> it can be more valuable to make it free if it increases profits elsewhere.

That's a big "if" for Claude Code, et al.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by throwa356262 »

freakynit wrote: post #162
freakynit wrote: post #160

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Even worse... they use both terms on the same page in dashboard. """ Credits 4,100,000,000 Credits Total Token Consumption """

Ooooo... I now realize the trick. It's a mental play... give 1000x of "credits" but charge in same old tokens.

I prefer this to Anthropics "in the next 5 hours you have X tokens to spend, and we are not going to tell you what X is"

Here token price is model price + busy hours surcharge, and BTW nowhere near 1000x

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