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Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

ninth_ant wrote: post #130
wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

Apple has over-promised and under-delivered so many times in this space, going back to the launch of the original Siri. So while they could win, it’s pretty hard to get hyped about it before we see real-world tests.

What’s real world test phoning home to the server if Google can make a Pixel look good by phoning home what do you think it’s gonna be different with an iPhone that six years ahead in the processor area? When it phones home?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Izmaki »

alrtd82 wrote: post #175

In English!? Someone please Apple that LLMs can deal with multiple languages at once without the old “go to Settings to configure your language”

I wonder if the language support is the voice part of the assistant? It took a while (years) for Siri to speak my native language back then.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by charcircuit »

xp84 wrote: post #74
seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

I'll believe this when pigs fly. There's a 0% chance it will work. Most websites I've seen have one or all of: * Force you to use email or SMS as a "second factor" to unlock changing password even if you know the old password * A stupid idea of password complexity usually requiring one of a finite set of 5-8 "special characters" which is often only revealed after you've chosen a password that doesn't have them. Or in…

They may be limiting entropy to make it easier for users to remember their password. A user that can't log in is most likely one that will churn.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

alrtd82 wrote: post #175

In English!? Someone please Apple that LLMs can deal with multiple languages at once without the old “go to Settings to configure your language”

Not with the EU, support isn’t coming the lawyers in the EU won’t get there before the engineers in China.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by andsoitis »

wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

> I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space.

Why? What strengths and structural advantages do you think thy have?

What black swan situation could arise that Apple cannot counter?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by burnerthrow008 »

himata4113 wrote: post #154

I read through the entire DMA rant that apple has here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de... This feels like it could be solved with a list of permissions that the user has to turn on when using 3rd party AI. Apple already: 1) requires developers to submit ID to publish an app on the appstore (at least I had to after ~1000 downloads to be able to publish an update) 2) has strong kernel enfo…

> This feels like it could be solved with a list of permissions that the user has to turn on when using 3rd party AI.

Nah, that just shifts the goal posts. If they did that, developers would be whining about "scare screens", as we have already seen when Apple put app installs behind a permission prompt.

They're already up in arms about the requirement from Apple (and Google) to know who is behind the apps that slurp up all your data.

The DMA maximalists won't be happy until Apple releases an anonymous service to automate setting up a Kafka topic to send each iOS user's PII to whoever wants to receive it.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by iknowstuff »

seaal wrote: post #86
arijun wrote: post #24

They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.

Just updated to see if I could make a shortcut to toggle `Reduced White Point` accessibility shortcut. "Try describing something different for the shortcut." I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it still doesn't work.

Lol that sucks. But FYI you can set it to a triple press of the power button.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by MattDamonSpace »

andsoitis wrote: post #185
wxw wrote: post #109

I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. They have incredible distribution and hardware. They just haven’t executed at the application layer yet.

> I strongly believe Apple can win the consumer AI space. Why? What strengths and structural advantages do you think thy have? What black swan situation could arise that Apple cannot counter?

I just can’t imagine another computing device from a competitor company that 1) threatens the smartphone 2) apple couldn’t copy and mass produce at higher quality

If there’s truly an existential threat to its device business, Copy Well

Re: Siri AI

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Post by aurareturn »

officeplant wrote: post #151
aurareturn wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why OpenAI thinks it needs to build its own physical devices. If Apple is only allowing its own AI to operate at the OS level, then that leaves OpenAI with no choice but to build their own. Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. Quite frankly, I'm kind of e…

>Meta also realized this and attempted multiple times to build their own hardware but they've given up each time. They started as early as a partnering with HTC in 2011 to make a Facebook phone. I was working in cellphone sales at the time and I can tell you no one wanted that phone back then even when Facebook was massive. An easy to hit facebook button was not a value add anyone was begging to exist. Although with…

  Similarly no one really wants a physical AI device, and attempts at such are pure techbro hubris on the companies part.
No one serious has made one.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Danox »

dd8601fn wrote: post #179
pornel wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the EU case, Apple weaponizes people's ignorance about regulation. Apple pretends that the features everyone else has been shipping left and right somehow need extra paperwork and special approvals, because (…checks notes…) pro-privacy EU laws let zero-privacy competitors sail through, but block implementations that offer more privacy!? What's really happening is Apple unilaterally withholding features while makin…

It IS regulatory. The EU wants “anything Apple AI can do you have to let other AI providers do with equal access”. Which is fucking stupid, and Apple will never, ever throw open the gates to something so dangerously braindead. Their entire reputation depends on it. And China is kinda self-explanatory.

China will get there first why because they’re run by engineers. Yes, they will have some stipulations but if you show them a good idea, it’s a good idea. They won’t stand on ceremony and say not invented here.
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