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An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by dfxm12 »

johanvts wrote: post #61
aeonik wrote: post #15

Working backwards from clues in the article, thief maybe stole 200-400 ft of wire. Assuming between 3-1/8″ - 6-1/8″ diameter. Somewhere between $1,360 - $6,400 of scrap value. $70k-$100k to repair... Absurd.

Why hasn’t the economist of the world figured out a solution to this problem. There has to be a better way when both sides would be better off by just paying the theif double. Some kind of proof of work system to show that you really are crazy enough to do the crime maybe.

It's not an economy problem, it's a policy problem. We can choose to treat drug addiction like a disease. We can choose to give people health care. We can choose to give people money to keep their lives together. Law makers would rather this happen though.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by pstuart »

narrator wrote: post #157
lmm wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why hasn’t the economist of the world figured out a solution to this problem. Because the only solutions that work are social. > There has to be a better way when both sides would be better off by just paying the theif double. Some kind of proof of work system to show that you really are crazy enough to do the crime maybe. Kipling has a poem about that one, it doesn't work out.

>Because the only solutions that work are social. This kind of talk from leftist politicians translates to me as : "We will use the criminally insane, and drug addicted against you in a campaign of terror until you vote in Communists. We will do everything in our power to prevent you from imprisoning these people or the people who poison them with drugs to maintain our leverage over you and increase our political pow…

Prison is expensive and has downstream costs as well--it should be a last resort. There's definitely times where it absolutely is the right thing but it should not be default mode.

Note that these crimes are almost always done by drug addicts. We have the War on Drugs that was supposed to make this never happen and yet it's a fucking epidemic. So how's that war working for you, eh?

It's cheaper to get these people off drugs and redirected to being "good citizens" again, or even just give them their drugs in a controlled medical setting (like is done with methadone).

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by Insanity »

onemoresoop wrote: post #177
phainopepla2 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My apartment was broken into once and I knew it was a meth head because they color coordinated my closet before they left. Turned out to be someone I knew (on meth)

What do you mean by color coordinated the closet?

+1, and how does that relate to meth?

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by jcgrillo »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #167
jcgrillo wrote: post #73

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Or pay a guard a fair wage and comp them the $0.20 or whatever for each bullet.. EDIT: to be clear I'm not saying it should be that way, but there was a time not long ago when this was the normal way to handle the situation. I'd argue the present arrangement is more civilized.

$0.20 isn't enough to cover good self-defense 9mm rounds, and no you shouldn't just use FMJ.

Those +P 185gr .45ACP hollow points with the nickel plated cases are pretty sweet. But it's a hell of a lot better to not have to do some kind of Old West standoff shootout shit whenever someone wants to rob something. That was my point. It's so much better instead of hiring a posse of gunfighters, to just trust that the system will (barring anomalies like this one) unfuck itself.

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Post by engineer_22 »

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #162
narrator wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Because the only solutions that work are social. This kind of talk from leftist politicians translates to me as : "We will use the criminally insane, and drug addicted against you in a campaign of terror until you vote in Communists. We will do everything in our power to prevent you from imprisoning these people or the people who poison them with drugs to maintain our leverage over you and increase our political pow…

Incidentally, that's basically the plot of Zootopia

Underrated film from the perspective of social critique.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by cjbgkagh »

Insanity wrote: post #183
onemoresoop wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by color coordinated the closet?

+1, and how does that relate to meth?

It’s a cluster of behaviors, like excessively brushing their teeth. "just meth things" is a meme referring to these behaviors.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by j-bos »

onemoresoop wrote: post #177
phainopepla2 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My apartment was broken into once and I knew it was a meth head because they color coordinated my closet before they left. Turned out to be someone I knew (on meth)

What do you mean by color coordinated the closet?

Not op, but meth is like, amphetamines the thing that drives people to do boring pointless work, like organizing clothes by color.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by devmor »

narrator wrote: post #180
devmor wrote: post #166

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Yes it’s very easy to have 90% approval and hear no downsides to your regime when you execute and imprison people for disapproval. Oh you have some complaints? You must be a drug dealer. Death for you.

He didn't even execute anyone. They are all just in that prison. Do some basic research first or you show your ignorance.

Oh sorry, we're calling them "forced disappearances" now.

Can't be an execution if the body is never found.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by devmor »

kelnos wrote: post #172
devmor wrote: post #170

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Japan, the society with such a corrupt criminal justice system that being arrested for anything regardless of guilt is generally considered the end of your prospects in life?

Both things can be true, that Japan's criminal justice system is awful, and that Japanese people have a strong culture of respect for the commons and community.

Yes, not only are both true, but one is the consequence of the other's extreme.

When you socially punish people for sticking out, even harmlessly, eventually you end up criminally punishing people for sticking out, even harmlessly.

Re: An Ohio Valley 100k-watt FM signal is severed in broad daylight

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Post by cjbgkagh »

kelnos wrote: post #169
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote: post #163

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> The likelihood of being harmed would need to be basically 100% before folks would stop taking the risk. Your terms are acceptable. In all seriousness, there are cultures in the middle east that do (or did) this sort of thing. Losing a hand for stealing, etc.

That's not a 100% probability of being harmed, though. That's only if you get caught. Most criminals believe they won't get caught.

They are less likely to reoffend if harmed, most crimes are done by repeat offenders.
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