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Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#181
The more impactful and positive an invention is, the more harmful it can be in the wrong hands. Sadly, AI is being developed at break neck speeds and everyone is trying to extract something from it which also means the powerful will seek to increase their power through it.

Feels like we're juggling with ball sized nukes these days... So amazing... until someone eventually drops a ball.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#182

I wish something like this existed that was completely offline. I'm face blind (prosopagnosia) so being able to feed an offline database photos of friends so it can recognise them would be great. Accessibility shouldn't require giving up privacy.

I find myself asking this every time a new software product is released. "Nice, but why can't this be usable without an account and a tether to the developer's cloud?"

Late stage capitalism.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Which is great for you, but a lot of people genuinely don’t have the memory capabilities to remember the birthdays of various people. I literally forget how to spell my own name sometimes, keeping track of birthdays is out of the question. But people get really offended if their birthdays go by unnoticed…

I literally forget how to spell my own name sometimes You should see a doctor about that. a lot of people genuinely don’t have the memory capabilities to remember the birthdays of various people Because they don't try. 30 years ago, it wasn't weird to have 30, 40, even 50 phone numbers memorized. Ask anyone who was alive then. Now people just push the icon for the person they want, allowing their brains to get lazy.…

> Because they don't try.

Must be nice.

In any case the point of my original post was much more about technology that serves only the user - not any specific use case.

From the replies, I see I could have done a better job of making that clear.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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Like the poster, I'm faceblind. It isn't the worst thing: I'm not voice blind, height blind, age blind, hairstyle blind, gender blind, features associated with race and ethnicity blind, attractiveness blind, affect blind, context blind, etc., so I'm mostly good at figuring out who someone is. Within one encounter with a bunch of people, I try to note what someone is wearing. Every once in a while I don't recognize so…

It's funny because I am the opposite. I can easily recognize a face, but if you asked me things like hair color or what they were wearing, I likely would be unable to answer.

I can offen do neither.

General body shape and height are ok. Hair, clothes, make-up, etc are not.

Context is everything. Where are they when we meet? If it is someone from work, at work, this is very easy. If it is someone from work in a shopping centre, this is very difficult unless I know them well.

I make an active point of trying to remember people's faces so I can place them out of context, because it shouldnt be this hard, and they deserve to feel valued in so far as I remember them. Its an uphill battle.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#185

I'm in the position to make security policies at work, and one of them is that no smart glasses are allowed in the office. We will not be having workers aiming Facebook glasses at our screens showing confidential information. And along those lines, I can think of damn few scenarios where I'd be OK with someone using face recognition against me. Restaurants? It's not Facebook's business to know where I like to eat, pr…

I think it's important to keep in mind the difference between metadata versus full video as well as the difference between centralized versus device local solutions. I don't want BigTech tracking my every interaction any more than the government but I don't mind if the dash cam on my neighbor's car logs when I walk by his driveway so long as it isn't uploading that data to a third party. But of course most people don…

That's an important distinction, but yes, it's irrelevant here. If Apple offered on-device, privacy-preserving, not-uploaded facial recognition, I wouldn't be inherently opposed to it. There's no way Facebook wouldn't feed that data right into their own Eye of Sauron.

Same with Logitech Circle doorbells that tell you which of your friends or family is at the front door, using local computing. That's a great feature. I wouldn't use a Ring camera that was shipping the data back to Amazon and any number of police departments.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#186

Another case of really cool tech done badly. Imagine a world in which you could use facial recognition, have an instant summary in front of you you reminding you of someone's birthday, the names of their kids ... Then imagine that it wasn't tracked, recorded, saved, or tied into anything at all. Just a useful service, in service to only you. Thanks Meta et al, for pushing forward with this broken (for people) model o…

I don't want superficial interactions with people pretending to remember my birthday or children using details from a fucking glasses summary. If I wanted to chat with someone pretending to be interested in me I could just answer the door when salesmen come knocking.

If I remember you have two hypothetical kids and one loves robotics and the other loves games; they are 9 and 11; but I can't remember their names no matter how many times I've asked (much to my increasing embarrassment), it doesn't mean I'm pretending to be interested.

In any case the point I was making was more about how the technology we are allowed is not in our service. This was just a use case where having a trustworthy service would be nice, but is impossible.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#187

I wish something like this existed that was completely offline. I'm face blind (prosopagnosia) so being able to feed an offline database photos of friends so it can recognise them would be great. Accessibility shouldn't require giving up privacy.

Apple is the only company doing this sort of processing

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

#188

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If you actually read the full text of the law, it states: " "Biometric identifier” means a retina or iris scan, fingerprint, voiceprint, or scan of hand or face geometry. Biometric identifiers do not include writing samples, written signatures, photographs, human biological samples, [...] " So if it's just pictures of faces, then it's okay. If, however, at any point in the pipeline the actual facial geometry is calcu…

Exactly. They've done it in the past, and it cost them $650M. It's unclear whether that was enough of a deterrent to change their behavior. [0] [0]: https://www.rgrdlaw.com/cases-in-re-facebook-biometric-info-privacy-litig.html

$650M to Meta is a drop in the bucket.

Re: Meta's ships facial recognition on smart glasses

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When Google Glass first released back in 2012 I was running a conference technology startup, and since we had a database full of speaker and attendee profile photos the obvious thing we could build with Glass would be a "your glasses help you spot the people you are planning to meet in a crowded room" app. The Google Glass developer terms strictly forbid building that, and it didn't take more than a few seconds of de…

Only because they couldn't figure out how to sell ads doing it tho
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