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Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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Post by DrScientist »

aresant wrote: post #66

This is an absolutely classic PR "submarine" effort to reframe the impact of AI Paul Graham has mandatory essay on this - https://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html (1) More than 50% of Americans at this point are more concerned about AI than excited for it - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/03/12/key-findi... (2) Popular media is feeding into this zeitgeist with headlines like - "Prepare for an AI jobs ap…

> This is an absolutely classic PR "submarine" effort to reframe the impact of AI

Indeed. Though the Graham article is out of date - he says bloggers have become the authentic voice ( in his own blog... ) - whereas you could argue now that the PR industry doesn't fear bloggers anymore - they have now weaponised them as 'influencers'.

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Post by jijijijij »

uejfiweun wrote: post #141
pbohun wrote: post #129

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No, the GPUs used in AI data centers don't have the capability to do normal graphics. They're completely useless for games and content creation. Additionally, B200s can consume up to 14kW of power. There are no consumer power supplies that could power such a thing. The sad thing is all that silicon will basically be worthless.

Prediction: it's not gonna be worthless for games. This is what's gonna make cloud gaming really take off. True, you can't use these as desktop GPUs, but they can be installed in data centers for purposes of video game streaming rather than AI.

> This is what's gonna make cloud gaming really take off.

Hypepunk at the dawn of silicon gothic.

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Post by jijijijij »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #162
uejfiweun wrote: post #141

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Prediction: it's not gonna be worthless for games. This is what's gonna make cloud gaming really take off. True, you can't use these as desktop GPUs, but they can be installed in data centers for purposes of video game streaming rather than AI.

The physics of latency disagree fundamentally here. Gaming, as a market, dislikes Live Service games, and many recent ones have basically flipped right out of the gate. Stadia was the exact flop everyone predicted, and simply throwing bigger compute won’t help. That market, simply, does not want that product offering.

> The physics of latency disagree fundamentally here.

We just use AI to predict player actions, duh?!

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Post by tinfoilhatter »

ziocancer wrote: post #42
copx wrote: post #23

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Dear god please STFU! Opposing genocide? Antisemitic! Opposing AI billionaire CEOs? Antisemitic! We live in a world with other humans. Just because someone or something is Jewish, it doesn’t give them carte blanche to treat the rest of us like trash.

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Post by ChiperSoft »

ajam1507 wrote: post #170
windexh8er wrote: post #89

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No. This is a ridiculous take on the recklessness Altman and Amodei have stated. Both men flat out lied, kept lying and continue to lie about their numbers and capabilities. They have literally destroyed markets that aren't coming back anytime soon (consumer hardware). They should be held accountable, not let off the hook like "Oh well, they fucked our economy long term. Guess they're just human." Literally fuck them…

> They have literally destroyed markets that aren't coming back anytime soon (consumer hardware) Ram is more expensive it's not the apocalypse for consumer hardware. > "Oh well, they fucked our economy long term. Guess they're just human." Not sure what this is a reference to.

Thats not what the consumer hardware companies are saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQwAhppWj8

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Post by thunky »

ffsm8 wrote: post #173
thunky wrote: post #116

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> it will be difficult to justify buying all these tokens I'll pay for my own tokens if it means can work one hour per day instead of 8.

Most Jobs I've worked at would've forbidden the use of personal subscriptions like that, as you'd be effectively uploading their intellectual property to foreign actors. This can end with more then a termination - as in being literally liable/on the hook for serious contract violations. So ymmv, you may want to take care with such an approach

I didn't mean to do it sneakily, I meant to be straight up with the employer and offer to pay for the subscription if they won't.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

reverius42 wrote: post #172
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #123

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They can feel the contraction coming. They don't know how bad it is going to be. They don't know if their own jobs will survive. I don't think it's irrational.

But how can you be so sure a contraction is coming? (And when will it come? Just the idea that there surely will be one, someday, is not scary.)

Inflation is heading up, jobs are becoming more scarce. The war in Iran is costing a lot. The federal reserve is now talking about when they are going to raise interest rates, instead of when they are going to lower them.

Plus the incredibly optimistic valuations they are talking up for the big AI company IPOs. If they didn't think we were nearing the top of the bubble, they wouldn't all be planning their IPOs at the same time. It's a race to see who can cash out first before it pops.

It feels similar to 2007-2008. People were talking about a bubble. But nobody wants to jump off the train too early and lose out on the big profits just before the end.

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Post by dorgo »

tunesmith wrote: post #30

Unfortunately it will take longer for our bosses to walk it back. I feel like I'm fighting the battle daily, telling execs what kind of work LLMs do not replace... it's very slippery, they keep on doing the rhetorical texas two-step - I don't think they even realize they're doing it. We communicate that LLM is amplifying, they hear it can replace. "No, we need humans to help with specs" "But AI can help with that." "…

>Which is all the stuff you have to work on before you can type in a prompt to an LLM

why not let the LLM derive what exactly was meant by the Jira ticket? I get lazy lately and if the LLM sounds like it understands the ticket I don't question it.

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Post by ath3nd »

zuzululu wrote: post #4
papichulo2023 wrote: post #3

It is kinda funny the irony of going from "we are going to replace devs" to "we <3 devs, keep burning those tokens"

I don't think its as big of a deal as its made out to be. They are human after all and have overestimated the capabilities of LLMs. What's more important is that this signals product market fit.

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