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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by usehand »

Aurornis wrote: post #159
usehand wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> You go around this post defending B&M with no knowledge of the basic facts of the case. I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying the claims don't line up > I will not do your work for you. Everything I said is true and easily searchable, feel free to look it up. Everything I quoted was from me looking it up!

You go around claiming the accusations are "just needless YouTube drama" and that you "wouldn't really trust the YouTube influencers for the whole story". If you think this is not defending the company, then you have some basic communications difficulties.

Again, if this is your knowledge after looking it up, then refrain from commenting, as your intelectual limitations will inevitably lead you to make false claims.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by FireBeyond »

fhn wrote: post #105
psygn89 wrote: post #77

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This is a gofundme I would gladly donate to. Fight the power for what's right.

Yeah, but you don't know the whole story. There was a young motorcyclists who ran from the police and killed in a crashed. His family has a go-fund me still just to collect money.

Report it. GFM has rules around fundraising around crimes.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by eff-nix »

rdtsc wrote: post #140

> Bricks & Minifigs CEO Ammon McNeff is a graduate of Brigham Young University. Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best are, by public record and documented account, members of the LDS community. When Reckless Ben's team, following the pattern of obstruction by local law enforcement, looked into the individual officers involved in these incidents, they found that multiple officers were also BYU alumni. I thought “it has to b…

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by charcircuit »

throwaway85825 wrote: post #85
charcircuit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an active criminal investigation into this from the Keizer police. Your implication that this is only being treated as a civil matter is false.

Did the criminal investigation start before or after the social media campaign. I suspect after.

It happened before part 1 from Reckless Ben was released. So it was before this latest wave of attention.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by ssl-3 »

turtlebits wrote: post #130
ssl-3 wrote: post #56

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Ruined seems like very strong phrasing when nothing important has been ruined. They sell new Lego sets in stores every day. They might seem expensive for a few bags of plastic bits and some instructions, but then: They've never been cheap. A kid can still grow up playing with Lego today, just as they've always been able to. I still remember building my first new Lego widget. Set 918. It was just a small basic spacesh…

Ruined as in - Lego sets are glorified EZ-mode puzzles and not creative toys anymore. Too many limited sets means it's trending toward "collector items" and not kids toys.

I see both kinds of sets for sale. I do not see ruination. Both kinds present an empire of creativity when they're disassembled and mixed up together in a box, as tends to happen with Lego. It's fine.

Or, alternatively, it may be possible for a person to be such a profoundly grown-up adult to be unable to see it that way. If that's the case, then I guess you're right: These adults are incapable of being creative with Lego, and therefore adults have ruined Lego. For themselves.

But if that's the case, then it was ruined for the old coots from the very beginning. :P

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by rcxdude »

standardly wrote: post #52

This seems like an easily arbitrated dispute. But I'm not privy to all the details and IANAL.

Arbitration only works if both parties are at least somewhat co-operative with the process. If someone decides to just not co-operate with the process or actively impede it, you need to escalate far beyond arbitration, which gets very expensive very quickly (with maybe some small chance that if you can pay for it, you might be able to get some of it back at the end. The belligerent side is generally just betting you'll run out of funds and willpower before you get there).

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by usehand »

Aurornis wrote: post #176
usehand wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this thread you have admitted to not knowing basic facts about this case. Yet here you are pontificating on the merits. Are you affiliated with B&M? Maybe an employee or franchisee? Why do you feel so strongly you need to defend them?

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Sure, it's possible the serving was not done correctly. Even in that case, this does not imply, as you have claimed, that this is "just needless YouTube drama" (emphasis mine). There is clearly a lot going on beyond the obvious flashy setting which is chosen for the presentation.

Arguably, no attention would have come to this matter if not for such presentation, and the perpetrators would have just gotten away with it easily, so it is in fact understandable that things were done in such a way.

Yet you choose to ignore the way more significant issues from B&M's side and focus only on the choices of dramatization of the events, which, if a problem at all, are only marginal in comparison. While further trying to use that a way to try to in fact discredit the more relevant issue.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by jasonmp85 »

rubyn00bie wrote: post #55

I’ve watched both videos by RecklessBen (Part 2 is on his patreon, and apparently will be made public when he has Part 3 ready)… The videos are damning of the behavior by Brick and Minifigs, the two owners who took over the store in Kaiser, and both the Kaiser (Oregon) police for and American Force (Utah) police. Brick and Minifigs both corporate and the owners who stole the legos, have consistently and thoroughly li…

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by munk-a »

jimnotgym wrote: post #169
throwaway85825 wrote: post #136

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In bankrupty a court appointed liquidator can seize assets and sell them to repay creditors. Of course none of this happened here.

They can't sieze consignment stock though?!?

"Can't" is a really bad word to use and I am not certain if "they" here are the corporation or the liquidator.

If you're talking about the corporation I think that any sensible neutral party would probably come down on the side that the corporation has no entitlement to those goods.

If you're talking about the liquidator then the goods were held by the franchise so if it went through bankruptcy those goods would be under consideration by the steward - I think they'd usually find that the original owner should be entitled to the goods since they're relatively non-fungible. The proceeds from sold goods are likely a more complicated answer since money is fungible and divisible. I could accept that there would be scenarios where a steward would think that the corporation should recover a portion of the proceeds.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by conartist6 »

rdtsc wrote: post #140

> Bricks & Minifigs CEO Ammon McNeff is a graduate of Brigham Young University. Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best are, by public record and documented account, members of the LDS community. When Reckless Ben's team, following the pattern of obstruction by local law enforcement, looked into the individual officers involved in these incidents, they found that multiple officers were also BYU alumni. I thought “it has to b…

Honestly that pattern of actions by law enforcement was the most disturbing thing. There was a moment where they knew this person was present at a private property to serve a warrant in a legitimate lawsuit. Clearly the right and moral action for the police at that moment was to help serve the papers AND then escort the litigant from the property. They chose to behave more like mobsters than defenders of the public trust, like they were taking over responsibility from the courts
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