Isn't there some kind of law to disallow imports without a CE / RoHS / etc label? Why allow it to enter the EU, and then fine the seller afterwards?
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#182The EU's approach to imports from PRoC is the regulatory equivalent of trying to 'test your way to quality' (which Deming showed to be nearly impossible). Attempts to use regulatory fines and prosecutions to ensure compliance from PRoC products is a whack-a-mole exercise which will fail.
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#183Re: EU fines Temu €200M for allowing sale of illegal products
#184Say what you may of Temu, and I do think more vetting of certain goods is a good idea, but they fill a very real need. In the part of Europe where I live, the choice is only between intermediaries for the same products coming from China. The local intermediaries sell a very limited picking at staggering margins. And when it comes to certain things, like electronic components, the choice is between importing (old) Ame…
But I still think chargers and children's toys are exactly where the line should be drawn
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#185I am very pro free market, but Temu with data harvesting and selling illegal projects should be banned together with tiktok...
Doesn’t TEMU have CCP ties? Free market is for businesses and individuals and foreign govt entities should not unfairly benefit from a free market.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand how €200M can ever be considered a "penny slap".
€200M accounts for roughly 1.6% of their €12.3B net profit in 2025. The average EU salary is €39,808. It's equivalent to a €636 fine. Though this is based on income, not net profit so it's actually more impactful to the average person than to Temu.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn’t TEMU have CCP ties? Free market is for businesses and individuals and foreign govt entities should not unfairly benefit from a free market.
Everybody in china that gets big has CCP ties. No way around it. Their car manufacturers are all propped up by government.
America is not China, but how close is it getting?
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#188It seems like quite a light punishment for selling such dangerous products that could literally kill people. The dodgy e-bike batteries have already been linked to several fires. bigclivedotcom takes apart some of the Temu stuff on YouTube and some of the electronics is atrocious.
They sell adapters to turn oil cans into silencers. Each one should be a violation of the National Firearms Act and subject to up to a half million dollar fine https://www.atf.gov/media/25071/download Nota bened; these are not per-se illegal, but you need to sell them through a firearms dealer and pay for an ATF tax stamp and only in states that have not banned them/all NFA items.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Require the recipient affirm the package meets all legal requirements, and personally assume liability for any violation.
So hold the consumer liable for laws meant to protect the consumer?