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FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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They are not supposed to break laws in the US.

They're not supposed to operate in the US at all. I'm practice I imagine that's mostly aspirational

Let’s say it should be avoided.

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What's the appeal of collecting high priced watches? Is it kind of like art collections, where its a decent store of value while maintaining a collection of something you are personally interested in? Or is it more for "love of the game"? Not saying its not a cool thing to collect, well made watches are a very cool piece of engineering, I'm just curious if there's any "special" appeal outside of "i like this thing an…

> What's the appeal of collecting high priced watches? You can carry them on your person through airports and other places reasonably unmolested in a way carrying a bunch of cash isn't so easy. > Is it kind of like art collections, where its a decent store of value Art doesn't store value: It trades whatever number the parties exchanging it want it to have, so those parties can manipulate their total annual revenues,…

> It trades whatever number the parties exchanging it want it to have

I'd argue that that's the very definition of (economic) value. Someone puts a cost on a good/service, and someone who values and can satisfy the cost gets said good/service.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Sounds like he was most likely involved in some serious shit that was off the books and somehow it came to light. His boss is probably aware of what it was but no one will admit shit. It went awry and he is left holding the bag. Gold and money for an operation that could have been to anything from funding armed rebellion to god only knows.

Or, someone decided they wanted to redirect the flow of black money through someone else, but couldn't do it internally for some reason; so they called in their FBI friends to make a ruckus. While the guy is busy defending himself, they have an excuse to pick someone else to receive the new stream of gold.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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> Obvious plant nobody would be that stupid to store the valuables at home within the first six months after the „acquisition“. This is an entertaining conspiracy theory because you'd have to believe that the CIA was so smart that they would completely manufacture a story to get someone arrested, yet so dumb that they'd make up a story that raises questions and makes them look like they did some stupid things. If a p…

The idea isn't that they manufacture it from scratch but rather that they contrive a convenient explanation for the physical reality that already exists. In that scenario the evidence isn't planted but rather misattributed.

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Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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Guy sounds like a dragon. What's the deal with the watches though?

I imagine watches are more liquid than gold bars

Gee I don't know, they look pretty solid to me, unless they're Dalí watches /s

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They want globalization to make their jobs easier. In no sense do they "need" it. Whether we want a world where the desires of intelligence and finance are blindly prioritized is an open question. For my part the answer is obviously no.

I think most ordinary people would say No, but most of us do not have a say in any important things. They put up the facade of voting while all the important stuffs are decided within the circles. I think it really makes sense to consider ourselves to be just intelligent cattle -- they still tolerate us because they need us to turn natural resources into machinery, weapon, insights and other stuffs they need, but onc…

> I think it really makes sense to consider ourselves to be just intelligent cattle

That's too misanthropic for my tastes.

> to turn natural resources into machinery, weapon, insights and other stuffs they need

It's easy to live in our world and ignore the maintenance staff.

> but once AI and robots keep up

This is nowhere near happening. Your seeming rush into anticipatory compliance is exceedingly premature.

> they can probably get rid of 90% of us.

It's the same moronic death cult that's been active since the 1860s. They would like to believe this, more importantly they would like /you/ to believe this, but a sober examination of the facts shows it to be a mixture of bluster and folly designed to intimidate you into transferring your personal wealth into their profit.

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From last November to March, the court papers say, Mr. Rush asked for, and received, “a significant quantity of foreign currency and tens of millions of dollars in gold bars for work-related expenses.” Obvious plant nobody would be that stupid to store the valuables at home within the first six months after the „acquisition“. —— Also the CIA was unable to confirm his discharge with the navy earlier? As if people aren…

Planting drugs would be wildly easier, both logistically and conveniently. Gold bars have got to be among the least easy ways to manufacture evidence to throw someone behind bars. Hell it could even easily explain the gold bars…

There’s zero reason to assume this is anything but exceptional incompetence, and looking at the current administration that’s wildly easy to believe.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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How porous is the CIA's interview process that they couldn't validate the guy's military discharge status?

How porous is the approving manager/chain that someone can request 300kg of gold bars and no one knows why and they just approve it any way.

That is why this story feels fishy.

Re: FBI arrests CIA official with $40M in gold bars in his home

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How porous is the CIA's interview process that they couldn't validate the guy's military discharge status?

The type of people Intelligence agencies need and use to accomplish their goals are also the type of people who tend to do these things.

Confirmed. CIA hires people with sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies and tries to hire them so they're mild rather than criminal in nature.
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