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Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Software distribution for Linux can be hard. Many distros, different conventions, no FHS is long forgotten, ... However, Xilinx Vivado and Vitis are so obtusely distributed, making it incredibly hard to package them well. Three random issues I remember: 1. We had a lot of trouble with Vivado projects randomly breaking. The culprit: German localization combined with automatic clock frequency derivation. Depending on w…

Doesn't help that just to start out you are looking at a 110+ GB size for their tools, which as far as anyone can tell, isn't really justified by anything.

That's because in the EDA space, they have horrible software practices. Take the worst you can imagine and then go worse from there. So eventually, when things "appear to work" they end up taking a snapshot of a messy directory and calling that the deliverable asset.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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> I’m actually fully in favor of empowering customer-facing representatives to put reasonable limits on responding to customer abuse. That's not the question that was asked. Neither calling a company's actions disgraceful nor anything else in the posts that triggered that official reply were abusive to customer service.

They were very sweary.

Nothing about swearing inherently constitutes abuse.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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Whether it's directed at you or not, as an employee it's still stressful AF and these people are like getting paid kinda shit wages to put up with people all day long. I'm not arguing about whether or not this particular instance contained "uncivil comments" (do the mods have the ability there to delete the comments if they are uncivil?)... But day in day out, on a mass level, it's such a goddamned drag, even if it i…

You know, it used to be "The customer is always right". But it's become "Whaat? Are you talking to us you uncivilized, stinky hippy peons? How dare you? We serve only the rich corps now, we don't care about you or your money." > But customer facing is such an awful position for the wages they usually make. So you're saying that rich AMD doesn't pay their employees enough and for this reason, their unsatisfied custome…

I matters taste, the customer is always right.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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What you say is ridiculous. The only reason why the "Linux community" cannot create adequate FPGA design tools is that the vendors like AMD refuse to document the necessary details of their products. A few old AMD FPGAs have been reversed engineered, e.g. some ARTIX-7, so for them there is no need for the rather bad AMD tools, but for most AMD formerly Xilinx FPGAs it is impossible to create better tools for lack of…

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No, it's not "on the Linux community" to bribe a company out of releasing hardware in a broken state of usability.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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I’m working in education and will change to other vendors in the near future. That means all my students will do so as well. Windows cannot provide feature parity for workloads that require cross compiling, AMD could at least support RHEL like the old days.

Just of out of curiosity, what parts of the University Program don't appeal to you? https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/university-program.html You can get free licenses and donated hardware through this program.

I didn’t like that you are not supporting Linux in your free tier.

Edit: if it is not clear, the way you treat the community is one way I evaluate my decisions to support or not your company when I suggest using your products to others, students or not.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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They were very sweary.

Nothing about swearing inherently constitutes abuse.

Tone policing is a common distraction from addressing the point and a useful diversion from making unflattering admissions.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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No, it's not "on the Linux community" to bribe a company out of releasing hardware in a broken state of usability.

It's no more a bribe than having to pay money to buy the latest C++ standard when implementing a C++ compiler. The reality is that companies pay each other for partnerships all of the time. There is value to AMD for keeping this documentation secret and there is value for having control over what design tools exist for them. It makes sense that AMD would want to be compensated in this case and would not want to do work for free which could undermine their business.

The hardware is not in a broken state of usability since you can still buy usable design software.

Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?

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When a company screws over entire segments of their customers people get angry. And they don’t get less angry when their frustration is belittled by someone how essentially says “your dissatisfaction means less to us than the words you choose to describe it”. _Professionals_ de-escalate. This was not that.

I don’t want to register for this forum and I’m having trouble finding any kind of a sort. But are you referring to this comment? * First, any bad language or abusive behaviour towards AMD, is not acceptable. If continued, we will proceed to block your profiles altogether. If you are not happy with the new tier licensing flow, no one is stopping users (Students etc) to continue using the current versions of Vivado (a…

People can be abused, corporations can't. They aren't living things.
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