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There is no claim that it is a "vulnerability research target". It is a bug finding magnet, and bugs can be found by anything from gcc warnings to AI tools. No, it didn't attract a bluepill exploit research. The fact that 300 bugs found in a year is not a recommendation as the pro-AI mafia suddenly claims ("because it has been analyzed!") still stands. Maybe the AI-mafia should sell "analyzed by Mythos" labels to imp…
What’s a “bluepill exploit”?
Project Glasswing: An Initial Update
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#182People predict that in 50 years, no human will be driving a car, and people will be shocked that we let humans drive cars manually. Coding may be the same. So many vulnerabilities in code written by very competent programmers. Manually building large, complex systems without major bugs or security vulnerabilities seems to be a nearly impossible challenge.
I reckon that in 50 years the very idea of code existing will be esoteric knowledge, a bit like binary. We simply won't care to think at that level of abstraction anymore.
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#183There has been a lot of cynicism around mythos, that it's just the usual public models without guardrails, etc. etc. but this: > 1,752 of those high- or critical-rated vulnerabilities have now been carefully assessed by one of six independent security research firms, or in a small number of cases by ourselves. Of these, 90.6% (1,587) have proved to be valid true positives, and 62.4% (1,094) were confirmed as either h…
They can be distilled internally… expect great things from Sonnet 4.8
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#185You can get a taste of this today yourself with Codex Security. I turned it on just as an experiment and in less than a week it has now become essential to all of us. I was shocked how accurate it is, how many security issues it found in existing code, how it continually finds them as we commit, and how NO ONE is immune from making these mistakes. I'd say it is about 90% accurate for us. Often even the "Low" findings…
One issue I've seen with LLM's is adding superfluous code in the name of "safety" and confidently generating a bunch of stuff that was useful in years gone by, but now handled correctly by the standard lib. I'm of the opinion that less is more when it comes to code, and find the trend this is introducing quite frustrating. How do you avoid this pitfall?
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I've seen a blog post by a security researcher saying that he was able to find the same vulnerabilities (for Firefox IIRC) with a ~30B params LLM... So yeah, huge marketing as always.
You mean this one? https://aisle.com/blog/ai-cybersecurity-after-mythos-the-jag... That's the one that says: > We took the specific vulnerabilities Anthropic showcases in their announcement, isolated the relevant code, and ran them through small, cheap, open-weights models. Those models recovered much of the same analysis.
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The rapid progress in the last few years in this regard is pretty strong evidence in my opinion.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48225426 there is a difference between a stunt and a viable product. diverless cars and agi are the fusion of Silicon Valley.
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It's pretty absurd to do it on AI-generated code though. If there is now an automated way to find vulnerabilities, coding models can be pretty easily trained to not introduce them
Tell me you don’t know how AI works without telling me you don’t know how AI works.