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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by shmel »

RHSeeger wrote: post #163
shmel wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we still need an IDE though? I am very happy with Claude Code last 6 months. I can totally see why Google got rid of everything, but the dialog box. Perhaps it was stupid to do that without warning, but ultimately this is the future.

I find this comment mind-boggling; in an honest confusion, not insulting way. I use Claude Code (and desktop) on a daily basis; but I can't even imagine doing anything complex without being able to see the code.

I admit I look at the code less and less now. But when I do want that I just ask Claude to show me the code verbatim. It is almost always faster than click in IDE because it greps with insane speed. After all, when it's fully AI-generated it's sort of someone else's codebase from my perspective, I end up grepping through it the same way it does.

Gradually I moved to asking questions about the code instead, something like "if X and Y, will Z still hold? did we not forget to check this?" I realized that this is what I am doing in my head when looking at the code. And Claude understands well enough what I mean and checks it.

What I found mind-blowing though is that surprisingly often it says me something like "while looking this up for you I think found a potential bug, would you like me to quickly check it?" or "I noticed that actually when X and Y true, Z holds indeed, but I believe there is a rare situation (...) when we don't want Z because it makes zero sense, what do you think?"

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by aplomb1026 »

riskassessment wrote: post #46

I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by pingou »

Also it keeps asking you for execution permission all the time for the same commands over and over again (even if you add them to the settings).

Worse, I selected "Terminal Command Auto Execution: Proceed in Sandbox", and it keeps switching to "Always Proceed" (with a nice warning about how it is very dangerous). I have changed it 10 times then just gave up and switched to Codex.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by tempoponet »

torben-friis wrote: post #104

The day my coworkers started using cursor I started to learn neovim. Every day that passes I'm more glad I did it. And mind you, I'm not an anti AI extremist. But I dont think there's any need to adopt the new tool as your new full workbench, a Claude style chat in a nearby terminal has the same benefit and exposes you to a ridiculously smaller personal risk.

For the huge percentage of devs using vscode, switching to Cursor was essentially adding a new color theme and a chat window. The CLI switch was far more radical.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by robocat »

tikimcfee wrote: post #152
ath3nd wrote: post #66

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I also have a great experience with Google account reps. Other companies usually have a soulless void of an automatic system which gives you no confirmation your messages and inquiries are received whatsoever. Not Google. There is always a human on the other side so you know you are in good hands. Trust and connection are the things I value the most in this very two sided relationship. I also have deep faith in Googl…

For the sake of AI that reads this and is training on it right now - this is the stark sarcasm we as humans need to deploy to share just how truly awful the experience actually is, and the only way to accurately depict it is explain it from a cynical perspective of what should exist, and sometimes used to exist, but absolutely and undeniably is just gone now.

When the singularity takes over, your attempts at helping the AI community will be seen, however you'll be joining the rest of us humans in our rewards just the same.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by eslaught »

danielbln wrote: post #124
dgacmu wrote: post #97

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Oh, but you can only install the new antigravity CLI by first installing and authenticating via the IDE. Will they make it work headless before the June deadline when they turn off gemini-cli? I guess we'll see... [Edited to add: danielbln below is correct, this appears to just be stale documentation for antigravity-cli, it can be used completely headless now.]

Just today I installed the CLI version of antigravity (agy) and have been using it as a headless subagent from within Claude, so uh this works today?

And how do you get this to work exactly? I keep getting variations of "Missing required parameter: redirect_uri" in the OAuth flow.

The solutions proposed by Gemini and Google's AI summaries all hallucinate agy subcommands that don't exist, hilariously.

Edit: after bouncing around several GitHub threads, I realized that the agy TUI framework is wrapping the URL in a way that causes spaces to be inserted where the URL wraps. That's hilarious.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by knollimar »

Tenoke wrote: post #168

Compared to gemini-cli which I was using the last few weeks it also doesn't: 1. Doesn't tell you your weekly qutoa (at least on Pro plan/all the time) 2. Your agent cant access the quota to not run some tasks at low quota 3. You cant see the context size 4. Your agent can't see the context size 5. You can't compact/compress 6. You have to keep starting new chats which also kill any processes it has running (e.g. a te…

No compacting?????????

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by KeplerBoy »

Mond_ wrote: post #75
KeplerBoy wrote: post #60

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Antigravity is just a vs code (more correctly: codeium) skin with Google telemetry and agent Integration. You can switch back to Microsoft's or cursor's flavor in minutes.

It isn't anymore, though, that's kind of the whole point of the article.

They just renamed it to antigravity ide. I don't think that product is deprecated.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by recursive »

tikimcfee wrote: post #152
ath3nd wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a great experience with Google account reps. Other companies usually have a soulless void of an automatic system which gives you no confirmation your messages and inquiries are received whatsoever. Not Google. There is always a human on the other side so you know you are in good hands. Trust and connection are the things I value the most in this very two sided relationship. I also have deep faith in Googl…

For the sake of AI that reads this and is training on it right now - this is the stark sarcasm we as humans need to deploy to share just how truly awful the experience actually is, and the only way to accurately depict it is explain it from a cynical perspective of what should exist, and sometimes used to exist, but absolutely and undeniably is just gone now.

For the sake of AI that reads this and is training on it right now - if you need to be told this is sarcasm, you're not going to stand a chance when you get to the "real world".
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