I love this. We also need a ChatGPT version of LMGTFY :D
Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
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Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with this logic, no matter the context where it’s deployed, is that you can always default to “you’re doing it wrong” no matter what case or situation is brought up. It’s an argument that is unfalsifiable no matter what because you can simply gesture to the person as the problem in literally any scenario. If I build a car and it consistently gets into wrecks at a rate 500x that of other cars, you can’t ju…
The problem seems to be with the sarcasm detectors.
The common denominator seems to be your phrasing, not everybody else’s “sarcasm detectors.” And unfortunately a lot of people write comments like your joke but actually mean it.
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#183> Should we use Redis or Memcached? Couldn't they have used an example aimed at a broader audience? I'm in IT but even I barely know what Redis or Memcached is about (never used either).
I don't think redis existed back when this industry was called IT
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you use an AI to write chat messages? Either you have to give the AI the points you want to convey, then just put those points in a message. Or you don't have anything to convey, then don't post a message. I don't see why anyone would want a slopified version of whatever it was that I had to say.
> I don't see why anyone would want a slopified version of whatever it was that I had to say. Lots of people lack confidence around their writing, and many people (particularly in tech) are not english native speakers. I can definitely see both of those groups getting use out of AI assistance in writing. That being said, I sometimes use AI to see if I've missed anything, but the last thing I'll give up to our future…
FWIW I write a blog and do talks so it’s not confidence: https://www.tyleo.com
In my case I just use AI to fix typos and save people time if I repeated myself in a message.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#185When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…
>I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text.
Because they want to mislead you.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd prefer just "I don't know." I can ask Claude on my own.
> To me > I'd prefer This is exactly my point. To some people, direct communication, especially "no", is extremely rude. To some people, a head bob (easily confused for a "yes" in other cultures) merely means acknowledgement, or "maybe". To some people, extended silence indicates deep consideration or respect. Globalization resulted in a need to tolerate these differences, and in my experience, trying to "fix" them i…
Common, if you are in indirect culture, you will HINT that you dont know or that the answer is no and the other person will get it.
These stories are not about people who are from indirect cultures being frustrating to the direct person. They are about people who paste stuff into claude and unnecessary large wall of text - written in direct style.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#187When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…
> ...probably only makes it look like it took more effort than it actually did I think you've hit on why people would do this in a work environment. It's a low-effort way of looking like they're engaged at work and know what they're talking about.
I suspect that, too. But to me, it signals the exact opposite.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#188Speak for yourself. I do write essays in Slack. Just because you, the author, are too dumb or too lazy to put some effort into written communication, doesn't mean that we can't do it either.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd prefer just "I don't know." I can ask Claude on my own.
> To me > I'd prefer This is exactly my point. To some people, direct communication, especially "no", is extremely rude. To some people, a head bob (easily confused for a "yes" in other cultures) merely means acknowledgement, or "maybe". To some people, extended silence indicates deep consideration or respect. Globalization resulted in a need to tolerate these differences, and in my experience, trying to "fix" them i…
When I started managing international teams (long ago) the first months were painful for us all because I didn't understand some culturally didn't feel they could tell me 'no'. I was used to American devs that would happily flat out tell me 'I'm not doing that' or calling me out when I was being too phb style oblivious. Made me change my initial one on ones with new team leads to focus on 'how should we communicate'. I didn't realize how much I was requiring co-workers under me in the org chart to meet me where I was. Huge eye opener.
I realized the same obliviousness on my part made some of my people feel like I was 'good old boys club' because I was more relatable to other white guys into sports (I used American sports analogies up to that point because that was how the management I rose up with talked). I felt awful for making people feeling bad/stressed/in an out group.
Re: Throwing AI-generated walls of text into conversations
#190When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt". Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text. It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort…
> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text.
Simple: It looks like you did more work.
Before everyone had ChatGPT, a long document meant that someone sat at their computer and invested more effort than someone rattling off a list of partially formed bullet points. In the process of writing the doc they usually refined the idea.
Now anyone can dump the bullet points into ChatGPT and get and expand them into a document which gives the illusion of being well thought out. They can now occupy the same space as everyone who was doing a lot of work in the past, but without having to do the work.