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Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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> “I know what many of you are feeling about that. I can hear you,” Schmidt responded as the boos continued. “There is a fear in your generation that the future has already been written, that the machines are coming, that the jobs are evaporating … and I understand that fear.” 71 year old man with a net worth of $64 billion [0] tells a bunch of 20-somethings (many of whom have tens of thousands of dollars in student…

U of Arizona graduated roughly 10,000 students this weekend. Schmidt could have paid off every student loan for every graduate in full and not even noticed it as a rounding error in his net worth. Would have done so much more for humanity that this vapid speech.

fact that universities admin think this speaker was a good choice also shows how out of touch admin has been

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mangione was a one-off, and a lot of people understand why he may have done what he did. Just wait until the American version of the French Revolution happens. If AI keeps stealing all the jobs, it will come sooner rather than later.

> " ...French Revolution... " Well, let's see: - Most of the nobility escaped the French Revolution unharmed. By the way, wealth is a lot portable for today's magnates than it was for the French nobility deriving their income from their land holdings. - Some of those who went to the block were nobles but most were ordinary people. - The leader of the revolution, Robespierre, was himself executed in the infighting aft…

Well, let's see:

I don't give a shit. When half of the middle class of America is unemployed, it's going to look very different than the French Revolution, whatever might happen.

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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post #140
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mangione was a one-off, and a lot of people understand why he may have done what he did. Just wait until the American version of the French Revolution happens. If AI keeps stealing all the jobs, it will come sooner rather than later.

> and a lot of people understand why he may have done what he did. He didn't understand why he did what he did. > just wait until the American version of the French Revolution happens We should all be trying to actively prevent that. The French Revolution was a complete failure and mostly succeeded in killing poor people and launching Napoleon's wars.

>He didn't understand why he did what he did.

That doesn't matter, and I don't think your comment makes any difference. The fact is that a lot of people understand why he (may have) did what he did.

>We should all be trying to actively prevent that. The French Revolution was a complete failure and mostly succeeded in killing poor people and launching Napoleon's wars.

The same or worse will happen if it happens here. But when half of middle class jobs are just gone, you don't leave the people with many alternatives but violence.

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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The Who is your evidence? Lol. The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people. It needed to happen. And centuries later, the French still don't accept bullshit, they will protest and riot when their protections are diminished in any way. America does protesy and riot too, though not to the same extent, but that will only get worse as things get bad. Russia is not a good example either, their socie…

> The Who is your evidence? Lol. The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people. Many people have made comments that are similar in nature, the line from that song is the pithiest example I could think of to express the idea that replacing terrible leaders usually leads to more terrible leaders. Spending decades fighting wars across Europe under Napoleon was good? I wonder how the troops that inva…

Maybe you should visit France today. I'd rather live there than the shithole America is becoming (and has been for a while).

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Who is your evidence? Lol. The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people. It needed to happen. And centuries later, the French still don't accept bullshit, they will protest and riot when their protections are diminished in any way. America does protesy and riot too, though not to the same extent, but that will only get worse as things get bad. Russia is not a good example either, their socie…

> The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people. What? Napoleon marched them off to war "spending 30,000 lives per month". They didn't get a proper Republic until 1870 and turned into miserable colonial overlords. Moreover the 3rd Republic;s foreign policy helped cause WWI.

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Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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I’m genuinely confused as to why the speakers are baffled by the boos. Everyone, and especially new grads constantly hear that AI is going to replace every job. And absolutely no one seems to be interested in answering the question of “okay, then what?” Of course people are going to react negatively when they hear, “the machines are going to take your jobs from you. No, we don’t care how you’ll be able to pay your re…

When I was in high school, the guidance counselors never really talked about job headwinds. Those were things that would presumably happen to other kids. The recipient of a motivational speech has infinite potential. It's the same logic with discussing AI. The audience is the cream of the crop and will adapt to the future and benefit from technology. It's those other kids who didn't get your advice that might have to…

Kid had recently a career event with a few speakers, and the first lady almost made them cry (or kid, at least) telling them all kind of career doom bulls*. The rest were regular folks with regular advice, no toxic positivity either, but that first lady got a fair share of enmity and boos. Some people are simply not made for public facing roles, yet somehow land there.

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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I don’t disagree, but the actual beliefs of the AGI cult are much worse, and much more dangerous, than “I got mine, fuck you”

It's more like "I'm Holy and All, bow before me. Why don't you like me? I don't understand" type. I mean at least Jesus gave free wine and bread.

> I mean at least Jesus gave free wine and bread

And flogged those that tried to do commerce in a sacred place. And hanged out with prostitutes and poor. And stated that those focusing on hoarding money without concerns for other stuff won't enter his kingdom.

I mean, whatever you think about Christian doctrines, Jesus himself was based AF.

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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post #35

I’m genuinely confused as to why the speakers are baffled by the boos. Everyone, and especially new grads constantly hear that AI is going to replace every job. And absolutely no one seems to be interested in answering the question of “okay, then what?” Of course people are going to react negatively when they hear, “the machines are going to take your jobs from you. No, we don’t care how you’ll be able to pay your re…

> Schmidt offered a similar message to graduates: Their fear is rational, but they have the power to shape how AI develops. This doesn't sound like being baffled by it. It sounds like they are trying to shake the students and say: "fine boo, but you need do something about it." You can't just wallow and complain about it. I mean you can but it's a path to failure.

Shaming those that contribute to AI development is doing something about it. Social pressure is one of the tools.

Re: Graduates are booing pep talks on AI at college commencements

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post #47

Executives of these tech companies keep saying the automation of intelligence will drive job creation because previous waves of automation did the same. To anyone with a brain, that is obviously not true. If AI continues to improve at the pace that it has been, why would anyone hire a human to do the thinking? Human intelligence will be orders of magnitude more expensive, and much slower... The tech executives know t…

> If AI continues to improve at the pace that it has been, why would anyone hire a human to do the thinking? Sure, but that is the big if, right? It seems unlikely to me that AI will continue at this rate indefinitely. Every technology eventually hits limits.

It "just" has to reach human-levels, which I won't rule out entirely as being achievable.
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