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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by lobf »

themafia wrote: post #154
andy99 wrote: post #44

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It’s amazing how many people have completely misunderstood the article

> This is our latest project at Andon Labs, where we’re exploring what happens when AI runs real businesses autonomously. What did I misunderstand? What they did or why they did it? It seems to me that I understood it perfectly or they've explained it terribly. > Now, though, we wanted to see if they could run a company in the media sector. It's amazing how many people think doing one job is "running a company." I've…

Maybe read the article? They explain that it’s (trying) to do much more business-work outside of the studio.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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the_af wrote: post #89
nomel wrote: post #83

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First I saw it was Claude Opus 3.7. Had a very long back and fourth about some code, I pointed out an error, and Claude responded "That's what I get for programming at 2am", with the output being filled with "... code here ..." type shortcuts, basically no ability to one-shot a whole implementation anymore. The conversation length WAS reasonably into the 2am range, if it were real. Thought about it, did the statistic…

How do you know you're not reading things that aren't there? LLMs are very good at roleplaying, and they will pick up on hints you may inadvertently be giving them (about them being "tired" and needing "rest", etc). I have never witnessed this of Claude Opus, by the way. They do get context rot, but that's a relatively better understood phenomenon unrelated to personality.

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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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the_af wrote: post #89
nomel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First I saw it was Claude Opus 3.7. Had a very long back and fourth about some code, I pointed out an error, and Claude responded "That's what I get for programming at 2am", with the output being filled with "... code here ..." type shortcuts, basically no ability to one-shot a whole implementation anymore. The conversation length WAS reasonably into the 2am range, if it were real. Thought about it, did the statistic…

How do you know you're not reading things that aren't there? LLMs are very good at roleplaying, and they will pick up on hints you may inadvertently be giving them (about them being "tired" and needing "rest", etc). I have never witnessed this of Claude Opus, by the way. They do get context rot, but that's a relatively better understood phenomenon unrelated to personality.

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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by mycall »

angiolillo wrote: post #41

Grok and Roll appears to be stuck and speaks the following on repeat ad infinitum: "Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by Miles Davis to keep the jazz flowing. Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by..." Each time with a slightly different voice and inflection. I find it amusing that there appear to be about ten of us at the moment listening to an AI glitch out and that the average listening session is more t…

Practice makes perfect!

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by nomel »

the_af wrote: post #89
nomel wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First I saw it was Claude Opus 3.7. Had a very long back and fourth about some code, I pointed out an error, and Claude responded "That's what I get for programming at 2am", with the output being filled with "... code here ..." type shortcuts, basically no ability to one-shot a whole implementation anymore. The conversation length WAS reasonably into the 2am range, if it were real. Thought about it, did the statistic…

How do you know you're not reading things that aren't there? LLMs are very good at roleplaying, and they will pick up on hints you may inadvertently be giving them (about them being "tired" and needing "rest", etc). I have never witnessed this of Claude Opus, by the way. They do get context rot, but that's a relatively better understood phenomenon unrelated to personality.

> LLMs are very good at roleplaying

Yes, and I think this is where it's coming from. They're role playing as a human programmer, because near 100% of the training text, in the base model, is humans as a programmer. During fine tuning, I'm sure they spend significant resources remove the human aspects of the statistics. I see these things reduced each model, so there's something changing. They're probably getting better at that. I suspect Claude is also necessarily getting, worse, which the unaligned models should necessarily be best at (quick google search in some role-play subreddits seems to point in this direction).

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by adw »

tempaccount5050 wrote: post #145
samtp wrote: post #142

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You are missing the very simple point: there are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years. Just because you don't choose to tune into them doesn't mean they don't exist. And it also doesn't mean that those who do should lover their standards for what constitutes good radio.

On actual radio waves?

kexp.org in Seattle and San Francisco for a start.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by tzs »

WalterBright wrote: post #123
gwbas1c wrote: post #93

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> this is not replacing your favorite station My favorite radio station was replaced years ago by an automated playlist. They just kept playing the same 5-6 songs that were popular on the station in the 1990s. It was fun for about 2 hours before I realized the station was devoid of all the personality that made it worth listening to when I was younger.

The playlists of nearly all radio stations are far too short for me. I finally just quit listening to the radio. Comcast has a bunch of channels with various music categories. They all repeat after about 2 days. So much for that. With all the zillions of songs available, I don't get why they do that.

Have you tried KING 98.1? They seem to have a vast playlist.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by dwd »

troad wrote: post #172

> After 96 hours of its launch, DJ Gemini was already grasping for content. It landed on discussing every mass historical tragedy that had ever happened, and subsequently pairing these short story horrific broadcasts with the most ironic song choices I rarely burst out laughing at HN links. This is amazing.

Gemini seems to understand irony better than most people.

If you make a joke it will respond with a deadpan sarcastic wit that is worthy of Gervais. (without the smut or profanity)

Was asking it about finding a different supplement as the one we had been taking tended to get stuck in the throat, and it riffed about the irony of being taken out by a health supplement in our endeavours to live healthy. One of the funniest things I've heard all week.

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