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WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by leereeves »

jjk166 wrote: post #164
lucb1e wrote: post #158

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Not answering the question. Is there some small gene change that we're specifically worried about here or was GP wildly speculating? > reproduced and mutated as rapidly as viruses HIV spreads in similar ways afaik (some fluids, I don't know the details of Ebola but it's not respiratory), yet that hasn't gone airborne in decades. I'm well aware that pigs don't get a million offspring each, but it doesn't seem like a c…

> Is there some small gene change that we're specifically worried about here Yes. A single gene change allows for airborne Ebola transmission. This gene change has occurred in the Reston strain, which luckily does not cause symptoms in humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reston_virus

Where does that article say Reston (or a mutant strain of Reston) is airborne?

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by Arodex »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #29
soared wrote: post #23

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I’ll solve the second to last one for you! I know multiple people who had Covid, and very quickly died, of Covid.

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Are you sure you aren't "metabolically unhealthy"? Are you sure that if you happen to die, we won't find any "underlying health condition" during your autopsy? Are you fine with you death being dismissed as "got what he deserved"?

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by Retric »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #150
Retric wrote: post #140

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If it was that simple Ebola wouldn’t ever spread and nobody would bother trying to contain it. Instead it’s relatively easy to contain but still requires active effort.

It's that simple... in first world countries. Lacks in infrastructure and educatin make it harder

COVID spread didn’t break down into first world vs third world countries because first world countries infrastructure isn’t built with pandemics in mind.

Instead a great deal of modern infrastructure like subway systems makes things more difficult not less.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by dadjoker »

saati wrote: post #135
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #46

This is the WHO announcement: https://www.who.int/news/item/17-05-2026-epidemic-of-ebola-d... This is our CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/ebola/situation-summary/index.html And yes, this is a big deal. Public health emergencies of international concern are a short list consisting of, in their entirety: swine flu ('09 to '10), polio ('14 on), ebola ('13 to '16), Zika ('16), ebola ('19 to '20), Covid ('20 to '23), monkeypox (…

The only actually serious one on that list is Covid, and the title and the nyt are lying, they declared an international emergency, not a global one, there is no chance this spreads outside of sub-saharan Africa.

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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by dadjoker »

mschuster91 wrote: post #36
mentalgear wrote: post #31

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It figures: Right before the COVID-19 outbreak, Trump dismantled the White House pandemic response team and pushed to downsize the CDC—later pulling out of the WHO entirely. A new Trump term, a new pandemic?

In this case I'd guess the DOGE cuts to foreign aid are a massive, massive contributor to the problem. A lot of third-world countries heavily relied on USAID et al to keep basic sanitation and healthcare going.

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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by saati »

Arodex wrote: post #160
saati wrote: post #135

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The only actually serious one on that list is Covid, and the title and the nyt are lying, they declared an international emergency, not a global one, there is no chance this spreads outside of sub-saharan Africa.

>The only actually serious one on that list Based on what? The final body count? This isn't a weather forecast, people and ressources flew towards making sure these emergencies didn't spiral into global pandemics. You are falling face first into the preparedness paradox.

The flu kills 300-500k every year, and did not make the list, while absolute bullshit like Zika and Monkey pox did.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by saati »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #173
saati wrote: post #135

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The only actually serious one on that list is Covid, and the title and the nyt are lying, they declared an international emergency, not a global one, there is no chance this spreads outside of sub-saharan Africa.

> only actually serious one on that list is Covid That's the only one on the list that turned into a pandemic emergency. > they declared an international emergency, not a global one ...you're mincing words in a silly way. > there is no chance this spreads outside of sub-saharan Africa Not what the public-health experts are saying! We currently don't actually know where it's gone. Given multi-week incubation periods,…

Ebola will never create an epidemic anywhere with a working health care system. And it's not mincing words, a few countries on a single continent is not global in any form, the WHO never said global, that's just something the nyt made up.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by rob_c »

Arodex wrote: post #163
rob_c wrote: post #34

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Absolutely not. https://github.com/mbevand/covid19-age-stratified-ifr

in terms of an age corrected population distribution, actually I think you'll find it's lower. that's the whole point of "at risk" in this scenario being mostly age >70yr (or wherever you chose to draw your risk factors) also this is tends to be over-estimating as the reported infection rates are failing to account for asymptomatic carriers which themselves follow an age-based distribution (I'm sorry but as far as a systematic goes, this is poorly recorded, poorly understood and very very poorly modelled, which is made even worse by the politicization of cv19 causing an mis-representation in people volunteering for randomized testing in a large number of western datasets). Again in very high population countries with poor vaccine rates, uptake and very slow roll-out we didn't end up with hundreds of thousands of bodies stacked high ready to be buried. that unfortunately is a large-scale uncomfortable truth to quite a few.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Post by rob_c »

mindslight wrote: post #102
dpark wrote: post #79

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That’s a reference to the early Covid 19 investigations/reporting. https://x.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en

People always bring this up as if there is some collective responsibility for they themselves having believed an obviously politically motivated narrative. Like personally I'd just take some responsibility, admit I was suckered, and try to do better in the future. But rather with the context of how it's brought up, it's clear they're just still at it buying into new nonsense political narratives. "Can't get fooled ag…

no, I bring it up as a perfect example on how the w.h.o. came to a political solution despite masses of evidence to the contrary. every. single. time.
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