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Meta to receive $3.3B in tax breaks for its $10B Louisiana data center

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

gizajob wrote: post #118
malshe wrote: post #100

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I'm not at all surprised to learn that Republican politicians royally screwed their constituents. I was going to say maybe these people will vote better next time just to read that Colorado governor is commuting the sentence of Tina Peters. Democratic leadership is so freaking weak it's unbelievable. With one party full of grifters and the other with full of weaklings, we need to abolish this two-party system.

Don’t worry, if you take a step back it’s been a one party system for decades already.

Spouting this bs to create indifference lost us the right to chose, made the LGBTQ+ community unsafe, ruined the lives of what hundred of thousands of immigrants to the country, killed USAID, caused many to loose their affordable healthcare plans. Gutted the voter rights act and lost Black representing voting districts in the south just this month. Destroyed our research institutions. Destroyed our public health institutions. Gutted our government oversite of industry such as the FDA.

But yeah, sure. If you aren't female, LGBTQ+, Black, an immigrant, a scientist, someone who needs medical care, someone who eats food, or someone conducting research, they might seem the same.

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Post by tzs »

tstrimple wrote: post #152
malshe wrote: post #100

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I'm not at all surprised to learn that Republican politicians royally screwed their constituents. I was going to say maybe these people will vote better next time just to read that Colorado governor is commuting the sentence of Tina Peters. Democratic leadership is so freaking weak it's unbelievable. With one party full of grifters and the other with full of weaklings, we need to abolish this two-party system.

The choice unfortunately often boils down to choosing between blatant psychopathy or completely useless platitudes. Yes. A vote for Democrats results in less harm. But Democrats are never actually willing to address the problems. Democrats would rather reach across the aisle than actually help people as has been proven out ever since my very first eligible vote for Obama. Some Democrats promise "Hope and Change" but…

> Democrats would rather reach across the aisle than actually help people as has been proven out ever since my very first eligible vote for Obama.

Obama: Affordable Care Act; allowed LGBTQ+ to openly serve in the military; American Recovery and Reinvestment act supported a lot of infrastructure improvement; Consumer Financial Protection Bureau; JCPOA; A whole bunch of action on climate change.

Biden: Inflation Reduction Act which provided large investments to fight climate change; CHIPS and Science Act; codified federal protection of same sex and interracial marriage; Rejoined the Paris Agreement.

Re: Meta to receive $3.3B in tax breaks for its $10B Louisiana data center

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Post by giancarlostoro »

mentalgear wrote: post #11
giancarlostoro wrote: post #4

Now if they can actually do something with AI that is meaningful? I assume Mark is trying to reach for like some crazy goal instead of just getting reasonable products to market. I've known the type of person who chases the stars instead of just taking their time, building up the core and then snowballing into greatness.

You call chatting with AI-influencer chatbot 'friends' un-meaningful ? Don't make little Marky cry. Not after the VR disaster.

I mean a lot of my friends own Meta headsets but the “metaverse” is not relevant to anyone. He had a neat idea, but he needs to stop making everything ingrained to Facebook.

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Post by tstrimple »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #180
malshe wrote: post #158

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100%. Obama squandered people's mandate...twice. I wish more mainstream (i.e., non socialist) Democratic politicians had strong convictions like Mamdani.

Yeah, I mean other than my family having insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions. And having years of insurance. And therefor much better quality of life then/now. Obama has what, a few weeks of actual mandate majority power. Mamdani is basically doing the same thing other Dems do, only the Internet lefties give him the benefit of the doubt/kudos instead of the piling on they give Dems. Abigail Spanberger has…

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Post by malshe »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #180
malshe wrote: post #158

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100%. Obama squandered people's mandate...twice. I wish more mainstream (i.e., non socialist) Democratic politicians had strong convictions like Mamdani.

Yeah, I mean other than my family having insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions. And having years of insurance. And therefor much better quality of life then/now. Obama has what, a few weeks of actual mandate majority power. Mamdani is basically doing the same thing other Dems do, only the Internet lefties give him the benefit of the doubt/kudos instead of the piling on they give Dems. Abigail Spanberger has…

Obama promised change, remember? We were in the worst financial crisis of the modern times and what changed exactly after Obama took over? How many bankers went to the prison? In his 2012 book, Neil Barofsky wrote that Obama appeared to care far more about the Wall Street [1]. Obama also completely ignored the Bush administration lies which led to Iraq invasion. Nobody got punished. During his presidency the senate Democrats were asleep at the wheel, not filling many vacant positions for federal judges, which McConnell later exploited. Overall, Obama's presidency was a lot of talk but no concrete action. It's just because his was sandwiched between two even worse presidencies -- Bush's and Trump's -- he comes out ahead.

1. Bailout: An Inside Account of How Washington Abandoned Main Street While Rescuing Wall Street

Re: Meta to receive $3.3B in tax breaks for its $10B Louisiana data center

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Post by rybosworld »

amazingamazing wrote: post #176
rybosworld wrote: post #171

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Per $ spent, data centers are one of the worst "job creators". This was well known before the AI boom - see this study from back in 2016: https://goodjobsfirst.org/study-state-and-local-governments-... The numbers are even less favorable today.

Sure, but the alternative is zero.

Over paying for job creation is a net negative... AKA job creation at any cost.

Zero is a good alternative in that case.

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Post by malshe »

alsetmusic wrote: post #168
malshe wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not at all surprised to learn that Republican politicians royally screwed their constituents. I was going to say maybe these people will vote better next time just to read that Colorado governor is commuting the sentence of Tina Peters. Democratic leadership is so freaking weak it's unbelievable. With one party full of grifters and the other with full of weaklings, we need to abolish this two-party system.

I couldn't agree more. What voters want is progressive policies (healthcare, housing, childcare, taxing mega-corps, etc). Dems are absolutely allergic to anything of the sort. The funny thing is that a lot of people voting on the other side want these things too. It's just that in a vacuum, they also want revenge for society changing without them enough to vote for that when it's dangled in front of them. I was liste…

I recently read “What’s the matter with Kansas” by Thomas Frank. It was eye-opening. One things he mentioned is that as both Democratic and Republican parties aligned on economic issues (I.e., Democrats started working for rich), social issues became distinguishing factors and gained prominence.

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Post by delfinom »

malshe wrote: post #158
tstrimple wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The choice unfortunately often boils down to choosing between blatant psychopathy or completely useless platitudes. Yes. A vote for Democrats results in less harm. But Democrats are never actually willing to address the problems. Democrats would rather reach across the aisle than actually help people as has been proven out ever since my very first eligible vote for Obama. Some Democrats promise "Hope and Change" but…

100%. Obama squandered people's mandate...twice. I wish more mainstream (i.e., non socialist) Democratic politicians had strong convictions like Mamdani.

Obama did get a lot done, the biggest problem was congress. The dems in congress are basically an entire seniority driven power structure where the 70+ year old dinosaurs hold complete control. They are the biggest ones resistant to change.

The president can only do so much without laws backing it.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

tstrimple wrote: post #184
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I mean other than my family having insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions. And having years of insurance. And therefor much better quality of life then/now. Obama has what, a few weeks of actual mandate majority power. Mamdani is basically doing the same thing other Dems do, only the Internet lefties give him the benefit of the doubt/kudos instead of the piling on they give Dems. Abigail Spanberger has…

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Women lost the right to chose when? Representation for Black Americans in southern elections was lost when? LGBTQ+ rights/right to exist has been decimated when? Immigrants started being mass deported when? But Democrats weren't doing anything and both parties are the same.
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