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USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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We didn't get much snow in ND over the winter. Hasn't rained much this year either

If you can find climate data... for example, in Wisconsin 2012 our snowfall looked like https://www.aos.wisc.edu/oldsco/clim-history/stations/msn/ms... and the overall water year precipitation chart was https://www.aos.wisc.edu/oldsco/clim-history/stations/msn/ms... PBS program on the 2012 drought - https://www.pbs.org/video/wpt-presents-wisconsin-drought-201... And what the fields looked like ... http://www.wcwcw.co…

My parents live on the west side of the state and my mom sent me a picture yesterday that looked a sandstorm

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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These laws are neither silly nor obsolete. That's a distraction. So is the age of the law, for that matter; courts don't waste one second on the topic. Settled law is settled.

I’m no lawyer, but according to my perusing (sourced directly from the BLM), the 1877 Desert Land Act is very much obsolete. The age of a law does not matter with regards to its validity, you are pedantically correct. But it very much matters to its relevancy, which was my argument. Laws regarding horse traffic in Manhattan may still be valid, but a lot less relevant than they were hundreds of years ago - assuming th…

Even if you presume it's obsolete, the fact remains the land was distributed under a model where it had to be claimed, developed, and irrigated for agriculture. The water distribution and well systems alone required for agriculture far surpass use for residential purposes, for example, but once you have wells and irrigation suitable (not cheap in the desert, and also valuable) for agriculture it may be more economical to just keep going with it. The momentum of that remains and the economic incentives aligned with those policy choices remain with us as to part of the reason why desert land is used as it is. The first developed use of land can have a lot of influence on what happens next, it's quite different from starting from an undeveloped state with pure free market forces on development.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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I’m no lawyer, but according to my perusing (sourced directly from the BLM), the 1877 Desert Land Act is very much obsolete. The age of a law does not matter with regards to its validity, you are pedantically correct. But it very much matters to its relevancy, which was my argument. Laws regarding horse traffic in Manhattan may still be valid, but a lot less relevant than they were hundreds of years ago - assuming th…

Even if you presume it's obsolete, the fact remains the land was distributed under a model where it had to be claimed, developed, and irrigated for agriculture. The water distribution and well systems alone required for agriculture far surpass use for residential purposes, for example, but once you have wells and irrigation suitable (not cheap in the desert, and also valuable) for agriculture it may be more economica…

This makes sense; its legacy is its contribution to the culture of development that is damaging to our shared water resources, no doubt.

I read your original comment too literally with regards to this law still being a problem, rather than the historical second order effects of the law.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Is anyone actually irrigating wheat?? Edit: I'm being downvoted because someone found a source that says 3% of winter wheat in Montana is irrigated. My point still stands, while yes some percentage of wheat is irrigated it is extremely uncommon.

https://kswheat.com/david-leonard-put-wheat-under-pivot-win-... > Leonard’s operation near Goodland is a diversified operation with a mix of dryland and irrigated acres in addition to a small cow-calf operation. Encouraged by his PlainsGold seed rep, he entered the yield contest for the first time in 2022. His entry came from a field planted to certified seed wheat that followed pinto beans, which provided some moist…

Page 8 shows yield of irrigated wheat YIELD TRENDS. I'm not saying it never ever ever happens, but it is far from a common practice. Are you seriously asserting that is more common than not to irrigate wheat in Kansas? Are you asserting that there is a greater than 50% change that any randomly chosen wheat acreage in Kansas is irrigated???

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Several European economists I follow on YT suggest Americans and Asians should prep now for a temporary food supply chain shortage, famine, and/or collapse resulting from the knock-on effects of petroleum and urea market disruptions.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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Shark attacks increase relative to ice cream sales. Unless you have some theory that correlates the two, that you're willing to share, we shouldn't entertain this.

> Unless you have some theory that correlates the two I guess you meant something more like "shows a causal relationship"? Because they're already correlated, which I thought was the point..

Well, I don't quite get the sophistry there, so I'll just agree that you're probably right in a way that has no bearing on the point.

Re: USDA Projects Smallest US Wheat Harvest Since 1972 Due to Plains Drought

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We're in an energy crunch, and Republicans think it is a good idea to cancel wind farms because they ruin the view.

They don't care about the view, they want to cancel them because they are "woke" These are the people who roll coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

It is pretty ridiculous that a method of generating energy is 'woke'. Republicans think solar energy is a trans plot.
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