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Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

#182

Back in the late 90s I stood up a webserver in my office that returned fake banner ads for 404's. I used the in-house DNS server to vector "*.doubleclick.net" over to it. We'd get amusing banner ads for things like cocaine-based nasal spray, renting pigs, and other vaguely off-color things in place of real ads. It was very, very amusing. I didn't tell anybody I was doing it and got some real laughs when people submit…

Hey Evan, get ready: https://web.archive.org/web/20001019032519/http://www.chicke...

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

#183

Back in the late 90s I stood up a webserver in my office that returned fake banner ads for 404's. I used the in-house DNS server to vector "*.doubleclick.net" over to it. We'd get amusing banner ads for things like cocaine-based nasal spray, renting pigs, and other vaguely off-color things in place of real ads. It was very, very amusing. I didn't tell anybody I was doing it and got some real laughs when people submit…

Cocaine nasal spray: https://web.archive.org/web/20001019042034im_/http://chicken...

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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post #119

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I don't think it's the same. I like to think of these supremacist/racist conspiracy theories as another form of control: in many cases these people are right to be upset, since they see things in the world that are truly unfair, but their anger gets redirected to bizarre beliefs and racism. So it's a way of controlling and channeling their anger to a place where real change becomes impossible, just anger and venting…

Immigrants are very often people from different ethnic and religious groups than you, who you have to compromise and deal with because they are present in large numbers in your poltical jurisdiction in a way they were not previously. Being angry at them for creating the conditions under which you have to compromise with them is normal.

It's normal, but misguided to direct your anger at them. It's so normal it's the usual path the frustration is channeled, often with conspiracy theories such as "the replacement" etc.

Compromising and dealing with people is what life's all about, but it's easier to hate than to build consensus and harmony.

And of course, some people exploit these misguided tendencies because they want people not to focus on systemic inequalities that are the root of their problems, and instead blame everything on some other group of people that's different from them. Or because fanning the flames works as a ladder for them.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

#185
post #24

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What if it wouldn't get done otherwise? (Genuine question as we're all trying to figure this shit out)

Why should anybody be interested in using software nobody was interested in making?

By that argument no software would ever exist.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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post #79
post #24

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What if it wouldn't get done otherwise? (Genuine question as we're all trying to figure this shit out)

We'd all be better off for it. I don't want you to take a shit on the table and call it dinner. Even if you don't cook.

That sounds like you're denying that anything valuable can be produced with these tools. That would be an extreme position.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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post #24

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What if it wouldn't get done otherwise? (Genuine question as we're all trying to figure this shit out)

Why should anybody be interested in using software nobody was interested in making?

This is the labor theory of value

Why should anybody be interested in using software nobody was interested in...

Writing their own assembly for? manually allocating their own memory for?

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

#188
post #182

Back in the late 90s I stood up a webserver in my office that returned fake banner ads for 404's. I used the in-house DNS server to vector "*.doubleclick.net" over to it. We'd get amusing banner ads for things like cocaine-based nasal spray, renting pigs, and other vaguely off-color things in place of real ads. It was very, very amusing. I didn't tell anybody I was doing it and got some real laughs when people submit…

Hey Evan, get ready: https://web.archive.org/web/20001019032519/http://www.chicke...

That's the ones! Great find. I remember "Bannertown" but "chickenhead.com" slipped my mind. As soon as I saw your URL it came flooding back. Thanks!

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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post #186
post #79

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We'd all be better off for it. I don't want you to take a shit on the table and call it dinner. Even if you don't cook.

That sounds like you're denying that anything valuable can be produced with these tools. That would be an extreme position.

When people burn down their neighbor's houses to roast marshmallows, I think that it's worth taking a strong position against them.

If you listen to what effects the companies building this claim their products will have, you conclude that either they're going much farther than burning a few houses, or they're lying through their teeth. Neither of which lead me to thinking that the harm of empowering them is outweighed by having more low-effort software.

So, yes. As someone that has to live in the world those assholes are building, they can go fuck themselves. I want nothing to do with their creepy, infantilizing, bleak, dystopian future.

Maybe that's an extreme position, but I'm very glad I don't have children; I don't think I could look them in the eyes and tell them they had a bright future.

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