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How would improved standards and reliability make the AI alternative to white collar jobs less appealing?
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> You want people to stick to social norms, call it both ways Oh, I downvoted both of you. But I only flagged you because of the name calling, which is against the guidelines [1]. When I flag I like to give the person on the other side a note, in case they genuinely didn’t know. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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#183If you want people to like AI, show them a future that doesn't leave them in abject poverty.
If AI works you'll be able to make more stuff with fewer people. While that could lead to unemployment historically it's not gone that way. You get more stuff.
Like agricultural employment has gone from ~70% to ~2% but the people who would have dug potatoes make cars, houses, aircraft and the like.
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Cost of goods and services drops by orders of magnitude at every point in the supply chain. That being said we already have relative superabundance and we're more miserable than ever, so it's not clear that more of it will cheer us up.
This is the kind of commentary that is completely detached from reality: people want housing, people want food, people want gas. It's not great that we can buy iphones (and AI is going to cause all electronics to be scarce, so much for abundance there)
I'm confused. It seems the parent comment is saying AI proliferation could make cost of goods drop orders of magnitude and you say it's detached from reality because people don't want goods, they want housing food and gas?
Housing food and gas are goods...
Or did you mean something completely different?
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I can't fully agree with the hollow part, when AI resonate with me about real-life issues (I understand it's just a machine without thoughts) it's pretty expressive and spot-on, and genuinely useful. I don't really see why it couldn't be the same with music, it can already write completely unique pieces that are very entertaining and full of emotions (even tho they are "fake")... The brain perceiving sounds a certain…
I can't go see AI music live. Staring at a GPU just isn't the same.
What if that does not matter to someone? I know my opinion can't be common, but I cannot stand live music. I dislike the sound quality, the differences from the recording, the crowds, the cost, and more.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the kind of commentary that is completely detached from reality: people want housing, people want food, people want gas. It's not great that we can buy iphones (and AI is going to cause all electronics to be scarce, so much for abundance there)
I'm confused. It seems the parent comment is saying AI proliferation could make cost of goods drop orders of magnitude and you say it's detached from reality because people don't want goods, they want housing food and gas? Housing food and gas are goods... Or did you mean something completely different?
Did you try reading their second paragraph? The one where they claim we already have an abundance of said goods?
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#187If you want people to like AI, show them a future that doesn't leave them in abject poverty.
If AI works you'll be able to make more stuff with fewer people. While that could lead to unemployment historically it's not gone that way. You get more stuff. Like agricultural employment has gone from ~70% to ~2% but the people who would have dug potatoes make cars, houses, aircraft and the like.
The problem isn't AI, the problem is a generation addicted to social media that sells their attention to the highest bidder.
How expensive do you think it would be to convince 30 million people of something that wasn't true?
Who might benefit from a generation of Americans being pessimistic about their future?
More specifically, who might benefit from a generation of Americans being anti-AI?
How would the cost compare to the potential benefits?
Re: Students boo commencement speaker after she calls AI next industrial revolution
#188If you want people to like AI, show them a future that doesn't leave them in abject poverty.
Cost of goods and services drops by orders of magnitude at every point in the supply chain. That being said we already have relative superabundance and we're more miserable than ever, so it's not clear that more of it will cheer us up.
How? The biggest cost of most products comes down to energy cost and the profit margins of each proccess and middleman. Actual labor costs are already a pretty small portion of most products and even if you mine and smelt twice as much material per worker with AI somehow, that is at best a few percentage off the final price. And adding in AI processing isn't going to reduce energy costs or increases wages.
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I can't go see AI music live. Staring at a GPU just isn't the same.
What if that does not matter to someone? I know my opinion can't be common, but I cannot stand live music. I dislike the sound quality, the differences from the recording, the crowds, the cost, and more.
I know not everyone enjoys concerts, but it’s fundamental to my listening experience. That aside, I have no interest in music or art of any kind generated by AI. Other folks might, but I’ll have nothing to do with it.
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