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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by maxerickson »

looperhacks wrote: post #169
nottorp wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they actually have a business presence in the EU? If not, how would those rules apply to them? Edit: tbh, the new "user friendly" idea of automatically converting US prices to the local currency of the visitor in spite of the company not having any connection to the visitor's locale always makes me think of drop shippers, not of legitimate businesses. Especially if i'm in a non USD non EUR country, I am fully awar…

They sell to the EU, so they have to follow their regulations. If they don't, the devices can be seized by customs. Tbh there are more issues if they wanted to be compliant with EU regulations. I'm fine that they aren't compliant (they aren't in the EU, after all), but it's something to be aware of when ordering from them.

Wouldn't customs seizing the device be a bigger problem for the importer?

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by chao- »

pcblues wrote: post #161
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #141

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I just ordered my Framework without any memory or storage, hoping that by the time it arrives, I'll be able to pick up some RAM and an SSD for a more reasonable price. If not, I'll just grab something from a drawer and use it underspecced until prices normalize.

Sensible thought. I very much hope there is a glut of one-three year old ram and GPUs on the market in about one year when the AI market "cools" and the ear-marked components return to the market. The banks that lent the AI industry the money are already trying to sell their debt.

Unless you meant buying an entire server (instead of laptop/desktop components), it won't work out the way you are describing. Prices may come down, but the components for the datacenters market aren't fungible with the components for laptop or desktop. You might not know what is being "earmarked" in this case?

Yes, the DRAM dies all come from the same wafer supply and fab capacity, and those limits are the cause of the current prices. However, once the memory OEMs have packaged DRAM dies into something like an LRDIMM or SOCAMM, the cake is baked. It's no longer usable in a laptop or desktop. No amount of X-year-old LRDIMMs (hypothetically) flooding the market will be useful for anyone's desktop or laptop. And then there's HBM, where the dies are directly on-package with the CPU or GPU.

Second-hand, revalidated server DRAM components may contribute somewhat to a price decrease, but those won't be the components you or I will be purchasing (unless you run a true server platform as a desktop, in which case, shine on you crazy diamond!).

The same is partly true for GPUs: there are PCIe versions, but most are OAM or SXM modules. You might be able to jury-rig an SXM module into a desktop? Adapter cards exist for at least some SXM versions, and you could figure out the cooling somehow? But it's probably more trouble than it's worth.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by 999900000999 »

The prices are still way too high.

You're better off buying a Dell XPS on sale, I saw one for about 800$ the other day with 32 GB of ram.

Dell has committed to actual Linux support.

I don't feel like paying a Linux nerd tax when most Windows laptops are fine.

Lenovo seems to have the best support here. Otherwise enjoy the adventure in driver land!

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by backscratches »

tarjei_huse wrote: post #84

A framework competitor! Most of all I love the keyboard. Full size arrow keys as well as home, end and page up/down nearby. I wish framework laptops could come with multiple possible keyboard layouts like the one on the picture.

Older than framewank, and more replaceable parts.

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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KaiserPro wrote: post #174
walthamstow wrote: post #157

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You can't delete your account by self-service, you have to email dang, which is probably non-compliance because it adds friction. It's a grey area, it'd have to be tested in court. I highly doubt anyone will bring a case though. That's like calling the police on your own drug dealer. (IANAL)

> which is probably non-compliance because it adds friction. You're gonna have to point to part of the regulation where thats not allowed. there is a mechanism for deletion. so long as its done within 30 days its still within spec

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by [deleted] »

dgellow wrote: post #173
walthamstow wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't delete your account by self-service, you have to email dang, which is probably non-compliance because it adds friction. It's a grey area, it'd have to be tested in court. I highly doubt anyone will bring a case though. That's like calling the police on your own drug dealer. (IANAL)

I don’t see how that has anything to do with GDPR. An email is a perfectly fine way to initiate the process. It’s not a gray area

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Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by backscratches »

theMMaI wrote: post #91
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #83

Does it suspend to RAM with echo mem > /sys/power/state and stays there for a couple of weeks on battery? If not, I will keep my Intel Thinkpad T14 G2, The Last of the Mohicans that can.

Most devices still support S3 sleep, it's just disabled by default as s2idle (modern standby) has become the default. You can almost always re-enable S3 sleep if you really want to, but on modern devices it typically only takes a few seconds to resume from S4 (suspend-to-disk) which technically is safer and more reliable. Also you can always use suspend-then-hibernate if you really want fast resume during the day, bu…

Modern devices generally do not have s3 anymore

Re: StarFighter 16-Inch

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Post by backscratches »

xvfLJfx9 wrote: post #150
negura wrote: post #122

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100% agreed. it upsets me when i see companies like framework advertising themselves front and centre as Linux-first, yet won't sponsor a coreboot port. starlabs, system76 and novacustom actually walk the walk

Framework plans to eventually support coreboot, as far as I am aware. (Or open source the current one they purchased). It just wasn't the main priority. They focused on making a repairable laptops ecosystem first. Switching to different firmware later isn't ruled out.

Starlabs is at least as repairable as framework, older, and coreboot.
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