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1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by tracker1 »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #177
tracker1 wrote: post #164

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Until the dealers tack on another $30k in BS fees.

That sounds realistic

It's what a lot of Ford dealers did with the new Bronco and EV Mustang models.

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by breve »

simondotau wrote: post #178
breve wrote: post #176

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The subject hasn't changed. The subject is Tesla's full self-driving is not, in fact, full self-driving. It wasn't 10 years ago and it still isn't now. If you are unable to admit to the practical reality of that then you are not interested in technology.

You changed the subject. If you cannot see this, perhaps ask an LLM to explain it to you. As for the actual subject, your opinion on the semantic question is noted. I did ask, I suppose.

The moment you said "Full is a relative term. Full compared to what?" is the moment you started playing dishonest semantic games.

I recognize you're desperate to "win", but there's no winning once you embrace dishonesty.

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by simondotau »

breve wrote: post #182
simondotau wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You changed the subject. If you cannot see this, perhaps ask an LLM to explain it to you. As for the actual subject, your opinion on the semantic question is noted. I did ask, I suppose.

The moment you said "Full is a relative term. Full compared to what?" is the moment you started playing dishonest semantic games. I recognize you're desperate to "win", but there's no winning once you embrace dishonesty.

Dude, nobody else is here. You need convince me that I did anything other than ask a reasonable semantic question. Trying to dissemble in front of a non-existent crowd isn't effective. Want to change my mind? Make an actual argument.

Now. How was I being dishonest? Be specific.

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by simondotau »

jandrese wrote: post #179
simondotau wrote: post #174

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If someone is legally restricted from leaving their home town, does that mean they're not able to fully self drive a car?

Yes. If they're restricted they do not have full driving rights. This is of course relative to other drivers. If nobody from your country is allowed to drive in a different country for political reasons or something then not being able to drive there doesn't mean you lack full driving rights. Even someone who has a breathalyzer built into their car doesn't have their full driving rights.

How would you distinguish political reasons from legal reasons? If Bruce is legally precluded from leaving the state of Rhode Island, would we stop describing his brain and body as being capable of the full driving task?

How about if he's allowed to drive anywhere except Rhode Island? Is that any different?

Re: 1966 Ford Mustang Converted into a Tesla with Working 'Full Self-Driving'

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Post by pigeons »

Leonard_of_Q wrote: post #70
dylan604 wrote: post #58

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For a split-second after reading the headline, I thought they were claiming FSD works.

It does work in driving the car where it is able to. Where it fails is in the 'full' part. After 10 billion miles driven on 'auto-pilot' [1] it is hard to claim it 'does not work'. Tesla would have been better off removing the 'F' from 'FSD' but that's water under the bridge. [1] https://electrek.co/2026/05/03/tesla-fsd-10-billion-miles-no...

Full is literally the first word in the feature.
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