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DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by aucisson_masque »

column wrote: post #178
izietto wrote: post #175

Just want to say that I faced this very problem the last week, I discovered OpenCode agent and it works great, with DeepSeek and other models. Try it out guys.

Pi will blow your mind :)

No MCP.

No sub-agents. There's many ways to do this. Spawn Pi instances via tmux, or build your own with extensions, or install a package that does it your way.

No permission popups. Run in a container, or build your own confirmation flow with extensions inline with your environment and security requirements.

No plan mode. Write plans to files, or build it with extensions, or install a package.

No built-in to-dos. Use a TODO.md file, or build your own with extensions.

No background bash. Use tmux. Full observability, direct interaction.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by zozbot234 »

torginus wrote: post #179
zozbot234 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But my impression so far is even when model subsidization is done, those open source models are quite viable alternatives. My understanding is that DeepSeek V4 Pro is going to be uniquely good at working on consumer platforms with SSD offload, due to its extremely lean KV cache. Even if you only have a slow consumer platform, you should be able to just let it grind on a huge batch of tasks in parallel entirely unat…

Good. It's hard to overstate how nervous most executives are about relying on cloud-based providers. AI currently works basically by sending your entire codebase and workflow, and internal communication over the internet to some third party provider, and your only protection is some legal document say they pinky promise they won't train on your data. And said promise is made by people whose entire business model reli…

Yes, this is the most straightforward argument for local AI inference. "Why buy cloud-based SOTA AI? We have SOTA AI at home." It's great that DeepSeek may now be about to make this possible, once the support in local inference frameworks is up to the task.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by rsanek »

>DeepSeek V4 Pro scores 96.4% on LiveCodeBench and costs $0.87/M output tokens

This is a heavily subsidized price and will only last until the end of the month: "The deepseek-v4-pro model is currently offered at a 75% discount, extended until 2026/05/31 15:59 UTC." [0]

The "supported backends" table is also deceiving -- while OpenRouter's server's may be in the US, the only way to get the $0.44/$0.87 pricing is to pass through to the DeepSeek API, which of course is China-based. [1]

I do think the model is quite good, I myself use it through Ollama Cloud for simple tasks. But I think some folks have bought in a little too much to the marketing hype around it.

[0] https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing [1] https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro/providers

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by FooBarWidget »

rsanek wrote: post #184

>DeepSeek V4 Pro scores 96.4% on LiveCodeBench and costs $0.87/M output tokens This is a heavily subsidized price and will only last until the end of the month: "The deepseek-v4-pro model is currently offered at a 75% discount, extended until 2026/05/31 15:59 UTC." [0] The "supported backends" table is also deceiving -- while OpenRouter's server's may be in the US, the only way to get the $0.44/$0.87 pricing is to pa…

They expect inference prices to structurally drop once they receive their big batch of Huawei Ascend chips by the second half of the year.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by zozbot234 »

karel-3d wrote: post #183

Can I... somehow run this locally? DeepSeek is opensource? Do I even need their API key? (I have no experience with running anything locally, maybe it's a stupid question)

Waiting for official support in llama.cpp. There is a fork that can run a lightly quantized (Q2 expert layers) DeepSeek V4 Flash in 128GB RAM without offloading weight fetches from disk.

Re: DeepClaude – Claude Code agent loop with DeepSeek V4 Pro

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Post by cpursley »

syntex wrote: post #180

Not sure you can replace Claude with DeepSeek V4 that easily and have same results. From what I see while building my own agentic system in Elixir, the problem is in training for your specific harness/contracts. Claude/GPT-style models seem to be trained around very specific contracts used by the harness like tool call formats, planning structure, patching, reading files, recovering from errors, and knowing when to s…

I love to learn more about the system you’re building out in Elixir and your learnings if any of it is public.
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