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Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by cheschire »

lelanthran wrote: post #170
cheschire wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These suggestions are like telling someone that that is being harassed to maybe wear something different. While it would, yes, likely avoid the problem happening again, it shifts the responsibility to the party that should not be at fault. Meanwhile the harasser is like “what’s wrong? I took an anti-harassment class?”

> These suggestions are like telling someone that that is being harassed to maybe wear something different. Weird analogy - it's telling someone who is paying to be abused to simply stop paying... If Windows was actually free, as in download a copy and use it as you wish, then sure, maybe you might have a (very tiny) point, but it's not like that at all.

Many legit users have a license applied to their Microsoft account that predates the current situation. That is to say, a license carried over from windows 10 and possibly as far back as windows 7, since there was a time where Microsoft was offering free license transfers. Many people see windows 7 as being not shitty and abusive.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by garganzol »

At first they ridicule people with general disrespect, privacy violations and ads in Start Menu, then they expect the same people to treat them seriously. That's a cognitive dissonance right there, and now they have to live with it. Psychotherapy may help.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by mdavid626 »

garganzol wrote: post #176
mdavid626 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t say Windows Terminal is great. Have you ever used a proper one, like Ghostty or iTerm2?

Neither Ghostty nor iTerm2 work on Windows.

I never said they are. I just stated, they are better than Windows Terminal.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by gosub100 »

cheschire wrote: post #129
cbdevidal wrote: post #105

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Also years of Windows muscle memory here, especially the keyboard shortcuts. I’ve used Windows since 1997. I’ve decided I’m done. A new PC arrives in a month. It’ll be running Ubuntu. I’m done. Maybe there is a Linux language similar to DirectX you might transition to? Maybe test code in a VM? (Although that gets you right back into Win11.)

These suggestions are like telling someone that that is being harassed to maybe wear something different. While it would, yes, likely avoid the problem happening again, it shifts the responsibility to the party that should not be at fault. Meanwhile the harasser is like “what’s wrong? I took an anti-harassment class?”

your analogy would be fitting for a jurisdiction that had no sexual assault laws or way for victims to defend themselves. In which case "Don't provoke an attack" is sound advice.

in other industries, you can sue product manufacturers if their defects cause you inordinate grief, lost wages, or excessive repair costs.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by ttoinou »

nickjj wrote: post #179
theandrewbailey wrote: post #112

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> Regaining trust is extremely hard after you've crossed an edge. Microsoft needs to learn consent. Everywhere there's a Yes and "Remind me later", there has to be a No. And the No has to work and be remembered forever, not forgotten after the next update. Using Windows has to stop feeling like you're being roofied all the time.

Yeah this seems to be a trend over the last few years. Google does this too. I don't have photos backed up to my Google account on a Pixel and every few days if I open the photos app it prompts me to backup to the cloud and I always have to click "maybe later", "not now" or whatever they decide to name it. It's messed up because if I were to accidentally ever click yes to that it would fill up my Google storage and I…

Those are dark patterns for sure. I don’t know how big companies can still pull that in 2026

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by kasabali »

> We’ve also made changes to the Power menu so you’ll always see the standard Restart and Shut down options without having to install a pending update first. You decide when updates happen, not the other way around.

Great! We've progressed back to Windows XP of 22 years ago.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by k3vinw »

I’m most excited for the scheduler and memory footprint improvements. As bad as I hear Windows 11 is, I’ve rarely had issues with it. For the most part it just works and stays out of my way. My only gripes are the occasional forced updates and a rare hard crash that happened once in a span of a year of using it as my daily driver.

Well that and I have to be mindful of running too many resource starving processes at the same time including WSL. Otherwise performance will quickly degrade. But that’s not much different than my 2015 ASUS zenbook running Linux off of 8gb of ram. In comparison my work laptop runs on 32gb of ram with much more powerful cpu cores.

WSL is my favorite and most used feature of Windows 11. So I’ll be happy as long as they don’t screw that up.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by olsondv »

cfiggers wrote: post #107
mdavid626 wrote: post #91

I literraly can’t name one feature since Windows 7 what was worth it, even on the contrary: every update made the system worse. I had to restore Notepad, Calculator and Paint from Windows 7. What the hell Microsoft?

On Windows 11, when you reconnect to a monitor or set of monitors that you've connected to before, it will automatically return your open windows to the layout across those monitors that you had when you last disconnected (assuming those windows are still open). This is extremely nice and saves me time on a literally (not figuratively) daily basis, to the point that I generally forget that it hasn't always worked tha…

For my dual monitors, they have a conflict with this feature where they do not detect signal and then switch inputs and eventually power down. Then windows sees a different config and switches again causing an endless spiral. I have to turn both monitors on to the correct input while plugging in the laptop to the dock. I wish there was a way to save specific monitor setups and manually toggle them.

Re: Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March

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Post by noisem4ker »

cheschire wrote: post #181
lelanthran wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These suggestions are like telling someone that that is being harassed to maybe wear something different. Weird analogy - it's telling someone who is paying to be abused to simply stop paying... If Windows was actually free, as in download a copy and use it as you wish, then sure, maybe you might have a (very tiny) point, but it's not like that at all.

Many legit users have a license applied to their Microsoft account that predates the current situation. That is to say, a license carried over from windows 10 and possibly as far back as windows 7, since there was a time where Microsoft was offering free license transfers. Many people see windows 7 as being not shitty and abusive.

> there was a time where Microsoft was offering free license transfers

I don't think they ever stopped. Maybe they ceased advertising it, but installing Windows 10 over 7 or 8 would silently inherit the license far past the original terms. The time-limited offer was just a FOMO-inducing marketing scam.

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