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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by CivBase »

MithrilTuxedo wrote: post #163
ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

IntelliJ's .idea/ folder has its own .gitignore and Copilot expects to find things committed under a .github/ folder. I used to be a purist about IDE configurations, but if everyone isn't on the same page about formatting and stuff like that you see a lot of file churn as things move around. I would have said the same thing about the .github/ folder, but I've had to add things to it to prevent Copilot from thinking b…

> but if everyone isn't on the same page about formatting and stuff like that you see a lot of file churn as things move around.

IMO that is what automated static analysis jobs are for. Let me configure my IDE how I want.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ux266478 »

gnerd00 wrote: post #96
HumblyTossed wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're valued at $4T, they have hundreds of billions hoarded. They could run 50 billion dollar startup projects and not feel it. Imagine a startup getting handed a billion dollars ... and the vast knowledge that Apple has access to already. There's no way they couldn't do a better Siri. For some reason, they just ... won't.

here is a clue delivered -- money does not make software better, and lots of money often results in worse.. it makes no sense? actual experience begs to differ. Classical homework assignment -- the Mythical Man Month and related essays

Money is a means to an end, so that's true. Just because you have a screwdriver does not mean you will drive screws. You have to have someone who can use the screwdriver, knows righty-tighty, wants to drive the screws, etc. Stupidly throwing money at a problem can get you places, but the efficiency can also drop to near zero. The problem is we're talking about a quantity of money where you don't need to be highly efficient. Savants can do pioneering work in a cave with a box of scraps, but you don't have to strive for that kind of austere efficiency. Nobody is expecting that.

If Apple can't harness the potential of the currently overfilled labor pool, that indicates a systemic issue within Apple. The entire raison d'etre of management structures within a business is to increase efficiency of capital to drive productive forces. If they cannot do that, then that would indicate an extremely problematic competency crisis within Apple's management organ.

This kind of failure when you are a company with the valuation of a first world country's GDP should be raising alarm bells in any rational person's mind.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by wutwutwat »

rvnx wrote: post #179
wutwutwat wrote: post #118

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If you're going to make a claim that there is a market for aged HN accounts you need to back it up with sources/proof, otherwise, you're pulling nonsense out of your ass

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being able to buy upvotes is not proof that there is a market for buying/selling aged hn accounts... which is what you claimed and what I asked for proof of.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by crdrost »

moregrist wrote: post #164
ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

They shouldn’t make it into the product/build, but if you think about them as documentation, it makes sense to version control them. They often describe: - Overall architecture - Repository layout - Processes to use - Things not to do: code styles to avoid, libraries to not use, etc. While they’re primarily documenting these things for an agent, the information is similarly useful to a human.

That's like 10% of the reason why people would commit CLAUDE.md…

The number one reason is, you are on a 10-dev tea and it just doesn't make sense for everyone to waste their token budget creating separate instances of this file, which an also requires ingesting the othe whole repo... That is 50, 60%.

The other bit is that you have a review pipeline hooked into CI/CD, and it is the easiest way to tell the bot how to review your code.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by HereticLocke »

wenc wrote: post #44
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

I agree, ChatGPT voice mode is pretty impressive. Almost similar to Samantha in 'Her', laughably.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ori_b »

ricardo81 wrote: post #174
ori_b wrote: post #160

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No . Both are offensive denial of service attacks on people's limited attention.

Fair enough view. I would take the view that social media feeds are filled with all kinds of other junk anyway and were pre-ai.

Yes, and just because someone else has been dumping trash in the woods doesn't mean you should.

That said, the social media feeds are so trash filled that I avoid them; it's extremely depressing opening up an incognito youtube and seeing what Google thinks will monetize well for an average consumer.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by BeetleB »

recursive wrote: post #152
acdha wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Google user here. My experience with the new assistant is worse. The old one could pretty reliably set timers. The new one could not.

Oh man. I made the mistake of converting my Google Home devices to Gemini.

The first problem is that it's just slow. If I want it to turn off some light, it takes a long time before responding.

But yeah, the failure to do basic tasks. I have a routine that I used to have it run (controls several devices at once). Now:

10-20% of the time it runs it.

60% of the time it says it's running it but it doesn't do anything.

20-30% of the time it says it can't do it unless I opt in to invasive permissions. And when I opted into them, it still failed about a third of the time. So I opted out again.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by data-ottawa »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #150
ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

I think it makes sense to include in source control, just as it’s pretty typical to include documentation (such as a readme file) in source control. CLAUDE.md is really just project documentation.

I’ve always struggled with what should be in Claude.md that doesn’t belong in readme.md or a similar supporting file.

I tend to include a well documented justfile, so between the readme and that common commands are covered. If there’s a style guide it should be its own file, or summarized in the readme.

If Claude is making errors I tend to just update my global Claude file, but I haven’t updated it in 6 months — only to disable Claude signatures on generated commit messages.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by rektomatic »

ryandrake wrote: post #143

I wouldn't even think that CLAUDE.md would make it into source control, let alone into the product. I don't AI-code for a living, so I don't know what is considered best practices, but I would think that CLAUDE.md, AGENTS.md, REQUIREMETNS.md, MY_PLAN.md, THIS_STUFF.md, THAT_THING.md, all the instruction/feeder files that drive the AI should not go into source control. Only the actual code that gets compiled. I look a…

You're describing project-level shared resources, there are local versions of that like CLAUDE.local.md which should be gitignored
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