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Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

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Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

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post #176

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You would do the same in a civil law country, sue the sports league and ISP. State that an "unlawful act" happened (blocking your service) and claim damages due to loss of traffic and the extra work it caused you.

But is it actually an unlawful act? A judge decreed that La Liga can demand the blockage of certain IPs. La Liga demanded the blockage of certain IPs. Does the fact that it had an unintended consequence on others somehow make it illegal?

It doesn't have to be an unlawful act. You can recover damages for a lawful act.

Here's France, the Platonic embodiment of European civil law:

> To get damages, you must compile a file that gathers all the elements that make it possible to determine that your damage is compensable

> You must demonstrate that you are the victim of harm: [snip]

> In order for your damage to be repaired, you must also determine:

> - A fault, negligence or infringement committed by another person

> - And that your injury occurred as a result of that fault, negligence or breach.

> Example :

> A person walking down the street hits you because he is looking at his phone. You fall and you break your arm. So you are suffering bodily harm that was caused by the negligence of the person who shoved you. It was precisely this negligence that led to your damage, because if the person did not hit you, you would not have fallen. You can therefore ask him for damages.

( https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F1... ; note the banner saying "This page has been automatically translated. Please refer to the page in French if needed.")

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#183
post #75

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Cloudflare can assign IPs based off customer reputation. High risk customers get high risk IPs. This way legitimate businesses stay on IPs that don't get blacklisted and sketchier businesses go on high risk IPs before they potentially get banned.

They already do this. Free tier IPs are separate from Pro tier, Enterprise tier, etc.

They must not be doing a good enough job if legitimate sites are being taken out by these blocks too.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#184

It is insane that you could block access to hundreds of sites just because some people decided to watch an ilegal stream.

And people wonder why Spain is doing so poorly when tribal corporate entertainment takes such a priority over everything else.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#186

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Why not declare that the value of La Liga's "IP" is a net negative and holding society back, and then simply invalidate all of it on the spot?

That depends on whether Spain is interested in being a serious country with perhaps some technology jobs, or a clown show where the highest priority is Sportsball.

I don't understand why you are downvoted. Placing economic interests of entertainment megacorp over the rest of internet is one of the things thats wrong with society these days.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#187

It is insane that you could block access to hundreds of sites just because some people decided to watch an ilegal stream.

And people wonder why Spain is doing so poorly when tribal corporate entertainment takes such a priority over everything else.

I wonder why you think "Spain is doing so poorly".

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#188
post #102

Sorry. Why can't an indivudual bad actor site be targeted without affecting non bad actor sites? Why does the blocking have to be so broad?

Because both sites are on the same IP address.

Presumably that's a choice Cloudflare can make.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#189

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A very expensive lawsuit that, even if successful, will result in a difficult to enforce judgment?

What's difficult about enforcing a judgment against La Liga? They're as public as it's possible to be.

They have deep pockets for dragging this on much longer than you can afford it.

Re: Spain's parliament will act against massive IP blockages by LaLiga

#190
That a sports league was empowered by the courts to do this in first place is buck wild to me. I live in America, so it's not like I'm unaccustomed to the government giving preferential treatment to corporations but I cannot fathom a court allowing the NFL to tell ISPs to block IPs across the entire country.
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