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Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by ch4s3 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #164
ch4s3 wrote: post #114

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You can easily see a totally different perspective on all of these if you try a little. > You can't repair your device. Everything is increasingly integrated for dust/water proofing, components are integrated to reduce the power envelope and push performance. Repairability is the tradeoff. > They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible All of their products and services are tightly integrated and ha…

> > You can't repair your device. > Everything is increasingly integrated for dust/water proofing, components are integrated to reduce the power envelope and push performance. Repairability is the tradeoff. This is a fair point. But when I hear "you can't repair your device" I also think "you can't take it to someone of your choice to repair", which is often true, too, even though that limitation is artificial - witn…

> I also think "you can't take it to someone of your choice to repair", which is often true, too, even though that limitation is artificial

This I think is a fair enough criticism. Screen and battery replacement by 3rd party professionals should be easier. Both of these things would tackle the biggest reasons that iPhones become useless before Apple drops OS support which is quite long compared to Android OEMs.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by serhack_ »

I'm very sad to see some bugs catch by my fuzzer that was coded in three minutes of cargo-fuzz, disrupting UX. I filled some apple feedbacks that were fortunately fixed by some engineers, but I wonder what's happening under Q&A testing.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

eddieroger wrote: post #105
miltonlost wrote: post #42

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You didn’t address any of the criticism towards Cook and the decline of the product under him. All that matters seems to be “did the line go up?”

You're right, I didn't, because that isn't the measure of his leadership, which was my whole point. > All that matters seems to be "did the line go up?" Exactly.

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Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by danaris »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #40
eddieroger wrote: post #9

It is so easy to sit on and critique from the sidelines. Steve Jobs had a passion for product, and it showed - he pushed the teams to make things he approved of, and that was the measure. Tim Cook had a passion for growth, and as the article states, Apple's income now rival some GDPs. They're different people with different drives. In fact, Jobs told Cook not to do what he would do, but do the right thing, and to Coo…

> Apple's income now rival some GDPs But so has the rest of FAANG. Did Tim Cook really overperform? Growth compared to 2011: Apple ~8× Microsoft ~13–14× Google ~10× Facebook* ~10–15×

"There are five companies that we selected because they have absolutely massive growth, far beyond anything else in the market. Should we really say Apple did well just because they're a member of that group?"

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by M3L0NM4N »

free_bip wrote: post #148
M3L0NM4N wrote: post #36

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Yes, the reason Apple was so successful at Cook's helm is because he gifted Trump a plaque.

Why do you think they got most of their components exempted from tarrifs?

I'm aware of the open bribery by the administration. That has nothing to do with my comment.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by ryandvm »

ch4s3 wrote: post #114
AstroBen wrote: post #89

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So much of Apple's growth is anti-consumer. You can't repair your device. They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible, making it hard to leave, and not by making such a good product. They try their best to force app developers to pay them their 30% tax, even when the devs brought the customers in from elsewhere. They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with…

You can easily see a totally different perspective on all of these if you try a little. > You can't repair your device. Everything is increasingly integrated for dust/water proofing, components are integrated to reduce the power envelope and push performance. Repairability is the tradeoff. > They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible All of their products and services are tightly integrated and ha…

>> They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with android.

>As a consumer I just can't possibly be made to care about this.

Not caring that you are not able to effectively use your *telecommunications device* with people that buy a different brand of telecommunications device is wild. Kool Aid is a helluva drug.

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Post by mschuster91 »

ryandvm wrote: post #186
ch4s3 wrote: post #114

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You can easily see a totally different perspective on all of these if you try a little. > You can't repair your device. Everything is increasingly integrated for dust/water proofing, components are integrated to reduce the power envelope and push performance. Repairability is the tradeoff. > They're intently focused on locking you in as much as possible All of their products and services are tightly integrated and ha…

>> They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with android. >As a consumer I just can't possibly be made to care about this. Not caring that you are not able to effectively use your *telecommunications device* with people that buy a different brand of telecommunications device is wild. Kool Aid is a helluva drug.

Who the hell gives a flying fuck about RCS? RCS is bullshit pushed by carriers praying they can get a sliver of marketshare back from Whatsapp, Telegram and Signal when it comes to text communications.

Carriers have been reduced to dumb data pipes and they haven't figured out how to live in a reality where the only thing that matters is service quality and price.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by hyperhello »

sgt wrote: post #128
hyperhello wrote: post #13

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Paste a screenshot into TextEdit doc and make a pdf.

Tested this now. Works like a bomb. https://imgur.com/a/t1ufCqr

You took a portion of the screen so it would be thinner than the window. Take a screen shot.

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by maleldil »

mschuster91 wrote: post #187
ryandvm wrote: post #186

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>> They, for so long, refused to support RCS and downgraded the messaging experience with android. >As a consumer I just can't possibly be made to care about this. Not caring that you are not able to effectively use your *telecommunications device* with people that buy a different brand of telecommunications device is wild. Kool Aid is a helluva drug.

Who the hell gives a flying fuck about RCS? RCS is bullshit pushed by carriers praying they can get a sliver of marketshare back from Whatsapp, Telegram and Signal when it comes to text communications. Carriers have been reduced to dumb data pipes and they haven't figured out how to live in a reality where the only thing that matters is service quality and price.

Anyone who wants to communicate cross-OS and doesn't want to use a whole separate application for it, when it should be a basic capability of the phone?

Re: Tim Cook Is Leaving. Good

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Post by wesselbindt »

infecto wrote: post #155
wesselbindt wrote: post #130

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Nothing you say is in disagreement with the comment you're responding to. And yeah, Apple is doing really well, in part because of their anti competitive practices. Good for them, bad for us. These responses talking about Apple's bottom line kind of feel like this convo: > Cigarettes are bad, they cause cancer. Philip Morris shouldn't be selling them > Yeah but they sell so many cigarettes! Isn't that great?

How did we jump to cigarettes? I don’t think any of the original articles complaints are wrong but I don’t agree with the thesis. They are one of the best selling device manufacturers because the product and ecosystem is so good. My point was that folks, maybe like yourself, who don’t find the ecosystem open enough or the devices repairable enough, are outliers compared to the average consumer.

> How did we jump to cigarettes?

Oh, it's an analogy. This is a frequently used rhetorical device where you take a similar analogous setup (maybe hypothetical) to elucidate certain aspects of a situation you're considering.

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