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Sawe becomes first athlete to run a sub-two-hour marathon in a competitive race

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Post by Forgeties79 »

Noaidi wrote: post #43
Forgeties79 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a wild reason to withhold a true record. People run marathons in all sorts of conditions since it became a thing. It is unlikely this is the best weather ever for a record set and even if it was, it’s never been a factor when deciding to qualify a record. That’s beyond unfair.

I am surprised at the push back on this. It is just science and it mentioned it in the article. https://marathonhandbook.com/large-scale-marathon-study-iden... I just said it needs an asterisk, not withholding anything. What if someone runs one second slower in higher humidity and temperature. Now that I would applaud.

> I just said it needs an asterisk, not withholding anything

It’s essentially the same as not setting the record. It would be qualified every single time it’s mentioned and be functionally saying “…so it doesn’t count.”

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Post by tedggh »

nikcub wrote: post #12

Stunning results at the top of the field. Some interesting takeaways on both fuelling and shoes. Maurten spent months working with Sawe and other runners getting their gut capacity trained so they could absorb and burn 100 carbs per hour[0][1] > The Maurten research team was embedded with Sawe’s team in Kenya for 32 days across six trips between last and this April. They were training his gut to absorb that load by m…

I normally consume 90g of carbs per hour when long distance biking, so do a few other riders I know. No GI issues. I use Skratch some other guys like Precision.

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Post by Aurornis »

signorovitch wrote: post #111

Feel a bit bad for Yomif Kejelcha who also broke the 2-hour mark, with this being his first competition marathon , but managed to neither break a record nor win.

I'll admit I'm not familiar with running, but in other sports it's not uncommon for amazing early career athletes to hold back a little bit on their first attempts.

It's easier to draw attention (and therefore sponsorships) if you leave some room to improve on successive attempts. It's riskier to give everything up front and then risk plateauing or regressing in your subsequent attempts.

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Post by nerder92 »

bbcc90 wrote: post #173

I'm a runner, and it's a bit sad that distance running is not longer purely about the runner. Based on the quote below, next thing we will see is a "constructors championship" similar to F1 for winning shoe constructor in the 'major' marathons :-(. " This dominance continued in 2024, with adidas athletes wearing Adizero models winning six out of 12 World Major Marathons – more than any other brand." and yes, of cours…

It was never about the runner, it has always been about technology and innovation. Shoes tech is just one of them. Better nutrition, novel training techniques, better air quality etc.

Of course innovation in shoes will have a bigger marginal impact (because physics).

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Post by pclmulqdq »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #139

A purist might want the athletes to wear the same gear as Pheidippides

Such a purist should also note that Pheidippides was likely the runner who ran to Sparta and back, hundreds of miles, the preceding week to ask for their aid at Marathon.

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

spenjovewkwhalo wrote: post #68

Posted to my in-laws, who asked how: Super shoes. Most shoes have carbon plates in them now, they act as a spring, storing energy and propelling athletes forwards. Better understanding of fuelling. Most athletes are taking between 100-120g carbs (sugar) per hour. Bicarbonate of soda has also been effective. Better planning tools. Athletes look at elevation, headwind, tailwind and will plan a strategy around going har…

Can you not accuse people of cheating unless you have proof?

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Post by double0jimb0 »

rhplus wrote: post #145

Is there also something beneficial about the shirt he wore? It has a unique embossed pattern on the chest. Is it just a nice design or does it also provide aerodynamic or heat wicking advantage? https://news.adidas.com/sabastian-sawe---london-marathon/a/0...

Good eye! Almost like an inverted golf ball. If I remember correctly from undergrad aero, purpose of dimples on golf ball is to detach/disrupt more of any laminar flow earlier as air passes around the ball, which decreases drag. Golf balls travel way faster than a runner, but possibly still has some minor effect?

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Post by zhoujing204 »

> Previous research indicates improvements of 2–4% in running economy (RE), which translates into an approximate 1–2% improvement in running performance when running in these shoes.

- https://www.mdpi.com/2813-0413/5/1/2

- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29143929/

- https://sportrxiv.org/index.php/server/preprint/view/297

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