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Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by epistasis »

gte525u wrote: post #166
jkestner wrote: post #143

This should feel personal to a lot of us. I have hopes of applying to the Small Business Innovation Research fund ( https://seedfund.nsf.gov ), a program that gives small companies a good chunk of money without taking equity, in order to encourage development of technologies deemed of national importance. I’d be curious if anyone here has tried applying in the last 18 months.

SBIRs have been mucked up since last fall. The program lapsed and it just got reauthorized for certain departments. Without that reauth only those who had phase 1's could apply for phase 2's.

Hey got any details about how to apply for a phase 2 if you had a successful phase 1? I know a group that would be very interested...

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Post by fionic »

SecretDreams wrote: post #100
fionic wrote: post #87

There’s a lot of political commentary in these threads about how dumb the admin is this and that, sarcasm, etc. but is anyone able to share why this is such a truly beneficial org to our country? I’m just out of the loop on this and I’m genuinely asking, I have never really heard of them. But by the reactions in the comments they’re like the most blessed org of our country and accelerate innovation and advancement of…

You're not expected to be in the loop for why every minor org in the government is helpful to the country, much like I'm not supposed to know the roles and responsibilities of everyone else in my company. But if I have a specific question regarding what some entity does, I can always look into it on my own time, rather than have a default stance on what they might do/not do.

My stance is completely neutral. My comment was about the temp in this thread being extremely negative and so I’m asking how come? What are they doing please enlighten me. Not bc I think it’s the opposite, bc I’d like to be educated by my peers in order to be on their side or atleast have a discussion. I didn’t realize this is wrong by pretty much all who has responded to me. Telling me to google it myself and I’m not genuine and I’m being called names.. this is. Wild.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by krapp »

jmye wrote: post #153
krapp wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire thread has swiftly descended upon by bots, shills and sockpuppets. It'll be flagged before any hope of finding good faith conversation in the morass. It's wild how efficient they are, sometimes.

It's just weird to see it here, honestly. I wouldn't have expected the ROI on this board to be worth it. It just feels, whatever the admins think, more like reddit with this crap.

The problem with green alt accounts trolling threads like this has been getting worse for a while. I don't know what can be done about it other than to just flag them, but that doesn't stop them.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by dang »

dublinstats wrote: post #127

National Science Board. Not the entire NSF.

Good catch. I've replaced the title above with the article's HTML doc title.

(Submitted title was "Trump fires all 24 members of the U.S. National Science Foundation", which was probably just an attempt to fit HN's 80 char limit that had collateral damage)

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by hakrgrl »

Trump is a disruptor. I am interested to see how this plays out and whether he replaces anyone. One thing I've learned since COVID is, unfortunately, to be more skeptical of medical authorities. We were lied to in so many ways and all the while forced to "trust the science" and so called experts. But they were caught either wrong or lying way too many times. So I am not going to assume outright all the people he fired are perfectly honest or unbiased scientists, and I hope Trump has a plan going forward. TDS is a thing, and anything he does is met with resistance. He could cure cancer and people would still be mad at him somehow.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #133
whatisthiseven wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd, why can't Trump be both cause and symptom? Surely, he has made things uniquely worse, and in ways that would not have happened without him.

Do what you gotta do to feel good. But giving a free pass to all the other contributors - the ones loudest about who is to blame - is foolish, at best. To each their own. Put another way, in terms of the political status quo, what changed between his two term? Hint: not a damn thing. That ain’t his fault. Your bias has blinded you

Yes, Trump is a figurehead for 'everything wing with the US' but he's become that figurehead by being incredibly and publicly active in the promotion of 'everything wrong with the US'. He deserves blame well above those who voted for him.

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Post by fionic »

pastelhues wrote: post #132
fionic wrote: post #87

There’s a lot of political commentary in these threads about how dumb the admin is this and that, sarcasm, etc. but is anyone able to share why this is such a truly beneficial org to our country? I’m just out of the loop on this and I’m genuinely asking, I have never really heard of them. But by the reactions in the comments they’re like the most blessed org of our country and accelerate innovation and advancement of…

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I’m real. I’m from USA. Just trying to ask a question. The responses have been enlightening. I’m learning so much about myself.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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Post by fionic »

stackghost wrote: post #94
fionic wrote: post #87

There’s a lot of political commentary in these threads about how dumb the admin is this and that, sarcasm, etc. but is anyone able to share why this is such a truly beneficial org to our country? I’m just out of the loop on this and I’m genuinely asking, I have never really heard of them. But by the reactions in the comments they’re like the most blessed org of our country and accelerate innovation and advancement of…

You've never heard of the National Science Foundation? I'm not even American and I've heard of it. The NSF's mission is to promote science and engineering in all 50 states.

Nope never heard of it
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