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Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the bad guys

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Post by rvz »

mrhottakes wrote: post #131
eloisant wrote: post #96

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Sounds really late, honestly. It's been apparent from people outside the company for years, and employees realize it just now?

Now it's in the news where their normie friends and family see it

The truth about a particular company is always told in 10 years time.

Palantir now has too many eyes to the average person on the street and its reputation is negative.

We will have the same conversation about OpenAI, Anthropic, Mechanize, Inc. and the rest of all the other AI labs just like we are doing with big tech companies.

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Post by Planktonne »

thewebguyd wrote: post #169
Planktonne wrote: post #162

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I'd agree in principle, but they're already killing people. The worst-case scenario has been happening for a while; treating this as a procedural stance rather than a description of reality is blinkered.

If we adopt their language because things are already bad we are saying that their power is now the only reality that matters, we are giving up any form of resistance. We killed people under the name of Department of Defense too. Giving them the name is giving them the legitimacy to continue to justify the violence, and signals to the rest of the population that no one is coming to help and the new order is absolute.…

As a non-American, I think that Americans treating concrete problems as less important than linguistic games does an awful lot more to legitimise the violence.

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Post by therobots927 »

vlowther wrote: post #91
therobots927 wrote: post #55

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I know exactly what you’re trying to say and you need to understand that it’s highly counterproductive. The United States was built on genocide of the natives, slavery of captives from Africa, and multiple unecessary wars that have killed millions of innocent people. This is not a new thing.

It also isn't a unique thing. See (for example) the entire history of, well, pretty much any country. There is a reason Utopia literally means "no place". * Genocide of the natives? Literally all countries in the Americas, for starters. * Slavery of captives from Africa? Pretty much everyone with colonies in and around the Caribbean was guilty of that too. * Multiple unnecessary wars that have killed millions of peop…

I know it’s not unique. I just assumed the parent was a nick fuentes America First type who wants to transfer all of our guilt and sin onto Israel (and in the parent’s case a specific ethnicity). It’s more common in the US than you would think.

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Post by [deleted] »

Planktonne wrote: post #83
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #71

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Regardless of what the Trump administration will tell you, that's not it's name. The executive branch is not empowered to unilaterally change the name of a department.

If it's what they call themselves and what they're currently doing, how much does it matter what the official name is?

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Post by malfist »

bko wrote: post #178
Ritewut wrote: post #110

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They are letting perfect be the enemy of good. If they respond with "I love bacon" then tell them to eat plant-based + bacon. It's still a vast improvement environmentally than what they were doing previously.

I personally think vegans should consider eating cows. If you care about sentient life and abuse, think about how much meat one cow produces. Killing a single cow can feed you for well over a year.

You say that like it's mandatory to kill sentient life to feed people. It isn't.

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Post by singingtoday »

davisr wrote: post #145
favflam wrote: post #120

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I have an irrational hatred of someone who believes in "reality distortion fields". Over the last 10 years, I also have come away with an intense impression that Silicon Valley is full of the self-delusional type, as evidenced by Sara's book, Palantir's weird advertising and CEO, and the insane Nimbyism. I believe it is in the best interest of the United States if the center of power shifts back from West Coast "tech…

That power, today, is expressed through technology, and these overlords hold their control via proprietary software and anticompetitive business practices. To seize power back, you need to relinquish their shackles by using technology that is designed with user freedom in mind, not "lock-in", and support businesses constituted of that ethos.

Free as in freedom!
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