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Re: Another Day Has Come

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WTF? You can't post personal attacks or abusive names for people like this on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html´

the bias in moderation action on HC is astounding, and starting a moderation comment with "WTF" just illustrates the lack of professionalism

Our bias is towards the HN guidelines, no matter who or what the topic or “side” is. We often don't know and it's never the point. This site is for curious conversation, not low-substance, ideologically-charged venting. We have to ban accounts that continue to treat this place with disrespect.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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Great - thank you for your service. I'm a moderator for /r/politics on Reddit. If you think your job is difficult, you should try that for a bit. ;-) > HN is meant to be and the kinds of people we want to be Well, I desire to be honest and truthful about my experiences (at both Microsoft and Apple). If I believe my experience can be useful, I will share it. If you object to my comments, you are, of course, free to re…

Can we quit with the defiant strutting? :) Once again, we're here for curious conversation, not... this. We don't “remove” anything (the only exception being when a user asks us to do so for privacy reasons). Personally abusive comments about anyone, including controversial public figures, should always be flagged/killed here, but whether that always happens in practice doesn't change whether the guidelines apply to…

1. You have repeatedly made the same point. I've heard you.

2. I just submitted a post [0] about Claude refusing to follow stop hook rules. That post is not visible to anyone but me. My previous submissions are still visible. Did you shadowban me?

[0]: [redacted]

Re: Another Day Has Come

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This guy has also been generous, and incredibly wrong, about other leaders too. Go look at his glazing posts of someone throughout Q3/Q4 of 2024, especially on Nov 3rd.

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a post in the Daring Fireball archive on Nov 3.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/11/03/iowa-harris-ahe...

Re: Another Day Has Come

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Can we quit with the defiant strutting? :) Once again, we're here for curious conversation, not... this. We don't “remove” anything (the only exception being when a user asks us to do so for privacy reasons). Personally abusive comments about anyone, including controversial public figures, should always be flagged/killed here, but whether that always happens in practice doesn't change whether the guidelines apply to…

1. You have repeatedly made the same point. I've heard you. 2. I just submitted a post [0] about Claude refusing to follow stop hook rules. That post is not visible to anyone but me. My previous submissions are still visible. Did you shadowban me? [0]: [redacted]

I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing, particularly in the last 3-4 lines of that comment.

Regarding your post: it was killed by a spam filter. Sorry about that; we've been deluged with spam and bot-generated posts lately, so the filters have to be tuned quite strictly. We don't ban anyone (other than blatant spammers/trolls) without multiple warnings. I've created a new copy of the post now so it can have its full time on the /newest page.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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It is just random bugs. Switching punctuation schemes. The terminal doesn't read very well, VoiceOver loves to say "not responding" in Safari and locks up, live regions don't always read correctly, quick nav (basically automatically holding down the voiceover modifier so you can more quickly use navigate through the screen) adds random delay to each key press, it's just lots and lots and lots of small issues like thi…

> VoiceOver loves to say "not responding" in Safari and locks up, I wonder, what's the correct solution for this ? Because so many apps I use including browser are definitely "not responding" multiple times per day for various reasons (full ram, internet stall, etc.)

Using VoiceOver compounds the not responding issue. I don't know how its internals work, but I imagine it tries to keep a view of the window's state--tree of elements, ETC. If the window has a lot going on, VoiceOver can get really sluggish, and I think it must somehow block the underlying app's ability to send/receive events, because you will press VO+right arrow to move to the next element, VO says "Safari/Chrome/Brave" not responding, and if you open up Force Quit, it reflects the same there. Reading a large diff on GitHub flat out doesn't work for me at all. Also, sometimes when navigating certain webpages, VoiceOver will just outright crash. Luckily, it does restart itself (not that pressing CMD+F5 is hard), but then my focus is moved to a completely different part of the page.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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> MacOS VoiceOver is quite a disaster I am curious as to why (definitely not arguing, but I’m not blind, and only use it for testing). I write (Apple) apps to be accessible. I would be grateful for guidance in making them as useful as possible.

It is just random bugs. Switching punctuation schemes. The terminal doesn't read very well, VoiceOver loves to say "not responding" in Safari and locks up, live regions don't always read correctly, quick nav (basically automatically holding down the voiceover modifier so you can more quickly use navigate through the screen) adds random delay to each key press, it's just lots and lots and lots of small issues like thi…

I honestly don't know how anyone thinks terminal support in VoiceOver is acceptable--it's virtually unusable. It's so bad that I used to fire up a Windows VM just for a functioning terminal, and while I was at it, I'd browse the web and use Notepad++ there, because Windows accessibility is just better (I used NVDA). But then I discovered Fenrir, figured out that it worked with Vim (NVDA doesn't), shut down the VM, and never looked back. Today, I use Wezterm, which VoiceOver doesn't read at all. In my case, that's good, because the only thing I want talking in the terminal is my terminal screen reader (I started writing my own, and it's my daily driver).

To be fair, reading the terminal is a completely different beast from reading a GUI. In addition to building a static view of the screen for review, you have to handle dynamic updates (auto read). Cursor movement tracking, figuring out when to read what, when not to read (an f just appeared on my screen, but I just typed the letter f; if key echo is turned off, I don't want to hear "f"). If a line was just added, it should be read, but if my cursor was moved to a different line, I want to hear the line it moved to, but not if that line was just read because it just appeared. All sorts of rules you sort of discover as you go. But the one thing you definitely don't want is for any new change to interrupt what was already being read, and that's exactly what VoiceOver does.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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1. You have repeatedly made the same point. I've heard you. 2. I just submitted a post [0] about Claude refusing to follow stop hook rules. That post is not visible to anyone but me. My previous submissions are still visible. Did you shadowban me? [0]: [redacted]

I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing, particularly in the last 3-4 lines of that comment. Regarding your post: it was killed by a spam filter. Sorry about that; we've been deluged with spam and bot-generated posts lately, so the filters have to be tuned quite strictly. We don't ban anyone (other than blatant spammers/trolls) without multiple warnings. I've created a new…

> I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing

And that will continue as long as you continue to reply in kind. One of the things I find hilarious about your responses: they are exactly like the trolls we deal with in /r/politics. Trolls respond in the same way no matter what you say to them. It's like talking to a wall.

Also, the "spam filter" excuse is bullshit. There is nothing about that post that would have been flagged. It was 100% fact based and would have been useful to the community. I have never had a submission or comment flagged as "spam" before Tom.

I didn't ask you to create another copy of that post. And now I can't delete it. It is almost like you have absolutely no idea how to be a moderator. Sorry if that is "disrespectful". I'll be respectful as soon as you start acting like a moderator.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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I struggle not to have a cynical take these days. Of course he cared about the ROI. The ROI is access to an underserved market, a halo effect, a new community of adherents, a new reason for customers to cross the moat into the ecosystem… a modest investment with a durable long term return in multiple categories. I appreciate that it’s a win-win for Apple and for its customers, and I firmly believe that accessibility…

He told the shareholder entity to get out of AAPL stock if they cared so much about ROI. That doesn't sound insincere. I'm looking for a recording of that shareholder meeting, to see if he looked and sounded insincere at that time but YouTube is insisting on showing the latest news. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2014/03/07/why-tim...

This is an eye witness account.

https://www.macobserver.com/news/tim-cook-rejects-ncppr-poli...

Re: Another Day Has Come

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I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing, particularly in the last 3-4 lines of that comment. Regarding your post: it was killed by a spam filter. Sorry about that; we've been deluged with spam and bot-generated posts lately, so the filters have to be tuned quite strictly. We don't ban anyone (other than blatant spammers/trolls) without multiple warnings. I've created a new…

> I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing And that will continue as long as you continue to reply in kind. One of the things I find hilarious about your responses: they are exactly like the trolls we deal with in /r/politics. Trolls respond in the same way no matter what you say to them. It's like talking to a wall. Also, the "spam filter" excuse is bullshit. There is nothi…

Regarding the post you made that was killed: it's a new kind of filter we're experimenting with to deal with the deluge of LLM-generated material that's being posted. That's a recent phenomenon that we're having to experiment with new ways of addressing. We're already aware that it doesn't work particularly reliably on the kind of post you submitted, and we're working to improve it.

It was not caused by anything specific to your account; no “shadow-bans” or other penalties. We don't ban accounts or kill posts over moderation disputes.

I created a new copy of the post because I assumed that, given you had submitted it earlier and pointed out that it had been killed, you still wanted it to be live. I did that as a goodwill gesture, to show that it was nothing personal or deliberate.

If you don't want that post linked to your account, you're welcome to email us (hn@ycombinator.com) and ask us to remove it from your account's history.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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> I was repeating myself because the disrespectful tone of the replies was continuing And that will continue as long as you continue to reply in kind. One of the things I find hilarious about your responses: they are exactly like the trolls we deal with in /r/politics. Trolls respond in the same way no matter what you say to them. It's like talking to a wall. Also, the "spam filter" excuse is bullshit. There is nothi…

Regarding the post you made that was killed: it's a new kind of filter we're experimenting with to deal with the deluge of LLM-generated material that's being posted. That's a recent phenomenon that we're having to experiment with new ways of addressing. We're already aware that it doesn't work particularly reliably on the kind of post you submitted, and we're working to improve it. It was not caused by anything spec…

Thank you for your response, Tom. Here's something that really helps us at /r/politics: when a post/comment gets reported/removed, we guarantee that the user receives a private message explaining why.

In this specific instance, it would have been helpful to:

1) Be told that the removal occurred. The only reason I discovered the post was "killed" was that it received zero votes. I'm sure you know that most Claude-related content garners a reaction.

2) Know what part of my submission caused the removal in the first place. For example, perhaps I used a word or phrase I could avoid in the future?

I sincerely apologize for wasting your time and being disrespectful. I reacted poorly and agree that I could have shared my criticism in a less "in your face" manner. That said, I still contend that calling someone an a*hole is no worse than using the terms rapist, pedophile, or Nazi (which happens constantly on politically related HN posts). I don't see you getting into long discussions with those commenters.

I'll send an email if needed, but I'd appreciate it if you would accept my apology and delete all the comments I made in this thread. I was wrong to make them. Period.

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