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Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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You don't have to be irrational to not know things.

True, but isn't it irrational to continue operating something you know could cause harm to you when used wrongly, despite not knowing how to use it correctly?

The hypothetical person we're considering does have an entire life, too. Their rationale may have emerged from careful risk analysis and weighing of opportunity costs.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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I was a fan of the idea that the OS would strip location data on any upload via web/app, but would preserve the data when doing specific types of transfers deemed not via third party like direct transfer to computer or AirDrop

Upload file doesn't mean mutate file. No. Upload file means upload file. If you want to mutate the file, mutate the file. When tools assume you're stupid and insert silent surprises unrelated to the task they no longer deserve the title "tool" because they are fundamentally doing other things.

Most people have no idea when they upload a “photo” they are also letting anyone know their “location”. On iOS at least, from the browser, you specifically choose whether you want to upload a file from the Files app (that lets you upload files from iCloud, Google Drive, Dropbox or any other storage type service you have installed) or a photo.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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If your camera (or phone) uses the DCF standard [0], you will eventually end up with duplicates when you hit IMG_9999.JPG and it loops around to IMG_0001.JPG. Filename alone is an unreliable indicator. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_rule_for_Camera_File_sy...

Which systems still use this shortsighted convention? All photos I’ve taken with the default camera app in the last many years are named with a timestamp.

iOS 26

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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On that point I would agree - I never used that. But Google also lied why it wanted to destroy ublock origin. It was clear to everyone that they did it because people can break away from ads infiltrating their computers. I can't use the modern www anymore without general content blocker; ublock lite is good but nowhere as useful as ublock origin was. I notice this when I compare e. g. firefox with default chrome. So…

Use IronFox or Fennec, preferably on GrapheneOS. You won't have freedom on Google or Apple controlled devices. I have not seen an ad in years.

Well Apple has had ad blocking extensions for over a decade and full extension support for a few years

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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In a similar move (silently changing a feature crucial to some users), in Android 11 Google suddenly removed the possibility to use "special" characters ": ?|\* in filenames[0], presumably because they're not allowed on Windows/NTFS and Windows users might end up struggling to transfer them to their Windows computer. I don't care about NTFS at all, though. I just want to be able to sync all my files with my Linux mac…

And you don’t see why Google would cater to Windows and a Mac users at the expense of Linux users?

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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Putting a star into a filename is a pain in the ass, no matter the OS.

Escaping and quoting isn’t really that hard

Yes and who needs Dropbox since for a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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This a very weird set of choices by Google. How many users are uploading photos from their camera to their phone so they can then upload them from the phone to the web? I bet almost 100% of photo uploads using the default Android photo picker, or the default Android web browser, are of photos that were taken with the default Android camera app. If Google feels that the location tags and filenames are unacceptably inv…

> If Google feels that the location tags and filenames are unacceptably invasive, it can stop writing them that way. Something can be "not invasive" when only done locally, but turn out to be a bad idea when you share publicly. Not hard to imagine a lot of users want to organize their libraries by location in a easy way, but still not share the location of every photo they share online.

> Not hard to imagine a lot of users want to organize their libraries by location in a easy way, but still not share the location of every photo they share online.

The location isn't just embedded in the EXIF tags. It's also embedded in the visual content.

I imagine people will get tired of their image uploads being blacked out pretty quickly.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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iOS allows this, but only on mobile data , which is pretty infuriating. Why should I not be able to also restrict apps from dialing home/anywhere just because I'm on a Wi-Fi network (which isn't even necessarily unmetered)?

It's really annoying. I have a sudoku game on my phone, works great but give it internet access and it's suddenly full of sketchy adverts. If I'm playing it on my commute, it's usable with mobile data disabled for the app. But when the train stops in a station long enough to auto-connect to wifi, immediate full screen adverts :(

Then don’t use an ad supported app? I have one as supported app on my phone - Overcast. The developer created their own ad platform and serves topic based ads based on the podcast you are listening to right now. Ironically enough I started to pay for a subscription even though it didn’t give me any real benefit just to support him until he started having ads.

I’ve found a lot of useful podcasts from the ads.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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I had a similar moment a few years ago. That Google Maps pop-up was what caused me to first switch to de-googled Android, and once that turned out to be a hassle after a couple of years, switch to an iPhone without Google stuff. (On Android, Google is a location provider , so blocking their access is much harder.)

>On Android, Google is a location provider, so blocking their access is much harder. https://grapheneos.org/features#network-location Their approach encompasses GNSS location, too. Nothing Google required.

True. Sidenote: they are still however push notifications provider, so good luck getting rid of them completely (unless you're fine with not getting the notifications). MicroG is awesome wrt. that as you can turn it on/off as you wish, and it just works. GrapheneOS however only supports Google services in sandbox, but the notifications work sporadically IME (maybe because I keep turning them off and on... not sure). So... Pick your poison.

Re: Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

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But surely there's a way to do this without totally killing valuable functionality? It's like the Android Sideloading debate all over again. Something that is very useful to 1% of users is stripped away. And we end up with dumb appliances (and ironically - most likely still no privacy )

yeah it does sound kind of dodge that there's no option even for advanced users to bypass this, I would guess mainly a moat to protect Google Photos. I wonder if online photo competitors are finding a workaround or not as searching your photos by location seems like a big feature there

This is honestly a horrible argument. Any app on Android can still get EXIF data
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