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Microsoft is employing dark patterns to goad users into paying for storage?

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Re: Microsoft is employing dark patterns to goad users into paying for storage?

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Post by tredre3 »

0x_rs wrote: post #103

Google Photos does the same thing, aggressively prompting the user endlessly until they give in. A solution to that is disabling the malicious application and installing Google's Gallery app instead, that possesses no ransomware capability from what I've last heard of it. Make no mistake: Google and Microsoft know very well this behaviour will lead to people subscribing to services they have, for the most part, no us…

You can log out from Google Photos on Android and it will stop prompting you (tap the icon upper right).

This is useful if you wish to maintain access to the editing tools (Google Gallery and most third party galleries I've tried lack simple things like adding text on a photo, and they often can't edit videos at all).

If you don't care about those tools then disabling Google Photos is indeed the best!

Re: Microsoft is employing dark patterns to goad users into paying for storage?

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Post by Frieren »

deckar01 wrote: post #151

Microsoft used to have an app called Office Lens. It helped color correct and keystone adjust documents scanned with a phone camera. They pushed an update that gutted the app and said this app has been replaced by OneDrive. After installing OneDrive and dodging multiple dark pattern storage upsells, I discovered the OneDrive app doesn’t have any of the document scanning tools. I’m sure someone got a bonus for increas…

Unregulated capitalism descents into scams and fraud. Why better your products and services when it is possible to buy competitors, increase prices and lie?

We need judges and policymakers that punish harshly this behavior and force companies to compete in quality and price instead of lies and competition elimination.

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Post by thombles »

deckar01 wrote: post #151

Microsoft used to have an app called Office Lens. It helped color correct and keystone adjust documents scanned with a phone camera. They pushed an update that gutted the app and said this app has been replaced by OneDrive. After installing OneDrive and dodging multiple dark pattern storage upsells, I discovered the OneDrive app doesn’t have any of the document scanning tools. I’m sure someone got a bonus for increas…

It doesn’t? I use the OneDrive app for scanning documents all the time. + button then “Capture”

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Post by ahartmetz »

deckar01 wrote: post #151

Microsoft used to have an app called Office Lens. It helped color correct and keystone adjust documents scanned with a phone camera. They pushed an update that gutted the app and said this app has been replaced by OneDrive. After installing OneDrive and dodging multiple dark pattern storage upsells, I discovered the OneDrive app doesn’t have any of the document scanning tools. I’m sure someone got a bonus for increas…

What the fuck. I dodged a bullet by deciding to try a FOSS scanning app at F-Droid's suggestion (whose timing may not have been accidental). The trapeze correction of FairScan is not great... but it's not going to try to pull any crap on me, and if the app changes, it's probably for the better.

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Post by thombles »

tredre3 wrote: post #83
jmcphers wrote: post #24

Google is no better. My family mostly uses iPhones, and on a big extended family vacation, I suggested we use Google Photos to create a shared album to document the trip. Everyone installed the Google Photos app on their iPhone so they could contribute... which resulted in all of them having their email accounts disabled . What happened? Google Photos on the iPhone backs up all your photos by default, and, like Micro…

> The minute Google Photos was installed, it started backing up photos Just to be clear: It will ask you before doing it. If you refuse, it will ask you again and again and again. Sometimes with a slightly different prompt. Until you accidentally say yes. But it does ask you. Even though I agree with your overall conclusion that people should avoid google photos, this moment should also be a learning experience for y…

It’s super hostile. I realised I was going to press it by accident eventually so I switched to Fossify Gallery before I did.

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Post by deafpolygon »

vachina wrote: post #177
vaylian wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate?

-iOS by default uploads your entire Photo album to iCloud. -iOS by default backs up all app resources to iCloud (so cloud native apps like Google Drive also gets backed up). You have to explicitly disable this backup app by app. -Save to.. dialog on iOS defaults and resets to saving to iCloud’s “Downloads” directory. -On MacOS, everything on the Desktop directory is synced to iCloud. You cannot delete the iCloud copy…

- false (you have to opt in)

- false (it depends on the app)

- depends on your cloud settings

- if you opt in, yes

- well if your storage is full, you kind of need to know

- they do, it's called time machine. you need a local disk for that.

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Post by timpera »

deckar01 wrote: post #151

Microsoft used to have an app called Office Lens. It helped color correct and keystone adjust documents scanned with a phone camera. They pushed an update that gutted the app and said this app has been replaced by OneDrive. After installing OneDrive and dodging multiple dark pattern storage upsells, I discovered the OneDrive app doesn’t have any of the document scanning tools. I’m sure someone got a bonus for increas…

The "OneDrive" app definitely has a nice document scanning tool.

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Post by duskdozer »

bsder wrote: post #38
geophile wrote: post #33

From perusing reddit, I see some Windows users tempted to consider Linux, often because of Windows 11. But then, many of them won't move because: it doesn't work just like Windows; there is some Windows application they must have, or maybe they just don't want to learn the alternatives. Or they use word/excel/powerpoint and have to interact with others who do also. The brainwashing, high tolerance for pain and misery…

> maybe they just don't want to learn the alternatives. Or they use word/excel/powerpoint and have to interact with others who do also. If they're on Office 365, they could be on Linux.

Or winapps/cassowary/

I try to use libreoffice when possible but sometimes the performance takes a nosedive for opaque reasons when excel is ok

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Post by duskdozer »

liendolucas wrote: post #30

From the WinUtil screenshots presented in the article I'm absolutely shocked about all the things that you presumably want to turn off or delete to have a "clean" Windows (to some extent if that's possible at all). It's also ridiculous that you need an external tool to easily disable/remove/uninstall every single thing you don't want . I haven't used Windows since many many years ago and the few times I sit down to i…

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT version. Official support until 2032
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