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Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by gambiting » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 6:31 AM UTC

SanjayMehta wrote: post #179

gambiting wrote: post #173

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I do know better than you actually. The idea that supporting Ukraine is supporting banderites is laughable.

Before SMO, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/neo-nazi-group... Of course, propaganda machine kicked in post SMO If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance.

>>If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance.

Your ignorance seems so deep rooted that I'm not sure how I could actually achieve that. Do you want a lecture on how using "the" for Ukraine in the current geopolitical context is just beyond stupid, or how equating support for Ukraine with supporting neo Nazis is only something a truly exceptionally ignorant person could do? In the sense that you can only do that by ignoring everything that was done to address it in the last 4 years, and yet only people who keep bringing it up are those who also usually are keen to say things like "oh actually Poland was the one that started WW2".

>>Of course, propaganda machine kicked in post SMO

Well that's one thing we can agree on, looking at the kinds of stuff you write.

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by SanjayMehta » Thu, Apr 09, 2026, 9:32 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #181

SanjayMehta wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before SMO, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/neo-nazi-group... Of course, propaganda machine kicked in post SMO If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance.

>>If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance. Your ignorance seems so deep rooted that I'm not sure how I could actually achieve that. Do you want a lecture on how using "the" for Ukraine in the current geopolitical context is just beyond stupid, or how equating support for Ukraine with supporting neo Nazis is only something a truly exceptionally ignorant person could do? In the sense that you ca…

Deflection.

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by SanjayMehta » Fri, Apr 10, 2026, 3:03 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #106

rainworld wrote: post #98

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https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-... 1000 Ukrainians for 38 Russians. Such exchanges with similarly lopsided ratios happen every couple weeks.

Maybe it's simply because Ukrainians aren't killing Russians within territory they control, so they don't have as many bodies to exchange. Looking at body exchanges to determine the number of dead people on either side seems just...like a weird metric?

https://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by SanjayMehta » Fri, Apr 10, 2026, 3:04 AM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #181

SanjayMehta wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before SMO, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/neo-nazi-group... Of course, propaganda machine kicked in post SMO If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance.

>>If you actually know better, kindly disabuse me of my ignorance. Your ignorance seems so deep rooted that I'm not sure how I could actually achieve that. Do you want a lecture on how using "the" for Ukraine in the current geopolitical context is just beyond stupid, or how equating support for Ukraine with supporting neo Nazis is only something a truly exceptionally ignorant person could do? In the sense that you ca…

https://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI and this was from a year ago.

Re: Iran threatens 'complete and utter annihilation' of OpenAI's $30B Stargate

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Post by spwa4 » Wed, Apr 15, 2026, 8:19 AM UTC

Jamesbeam wrote: post #31

spwa4 wrote: post #22

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Of course these 2 compare about as standing on a random pedestrian's toe compares to massacring a small city. Both regrettable in absolute terms, but not remotely comparable. (why not just the numbers? Because the ICE deaths were definitely not intentional. Nobody gave anybody the order to fire. But Iran's killing of protestors was 100% intentional by the regime. In other words, aside from 2 versus 40.000, all 40.000…

Ok, let’s compare apples to apples then. You should research how many civilians the US army killed in airstrikes alone before coming to false conclusions. Yes, the mullah regime are monsters, but no lesser or bigger monster than the good-oiled machine the whole US economy is running on that is killing men, women and children by US service members through all of the command chain for glory, medals, and profit. In Iran…

Okay. You only mention things on the US side. Iran is responsible for the bombing campaign in the Syrian civil war. Iran's islamists and hezbollah killed 80% of about 600000 civilians in that war, with Russian air support.

Which is at minimum 10 civilians for every civilian you accuse the US of, right there. Just in that one conflict, a few years ago. And on the list of Iranian islamist crimes we also find Yemen's civil war, the rise (and fall) of Daesh in Iraq (meaning Iran's islamists thought they would be able to reason and unite with another islamist faction, you know because they are religious nutcases too) ... nope. So they were both the cause and part of the solution to Daesh), the Iran-Iraq war, and of course they were involved in the Lebanese civil war (and still are).

So I'm very comfortable saying that 10x difference will easily become 40-50 taking all that into account (both the Yemeni civil war and the Iran-Iraq war had more victims than the Syrian civil war, and daesh also made large amounts of victims)

As for comparing with, say, the EU. The EU did nothing. Which is very cheap in terms of cost, but I doubt you will find many Ukrainians agreeing this minimized casualties. And I hardly think doing nothing is to be celebrated on a moral level.

Your arguments only hold merit if you compare the US against an absolute standard, where only 0 mistakes, 0 collateral damage is acceptable. You are taking an absolutist moral stance ...