Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz • Hacker News Board

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by villedespommes » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 8:13 PM UTC

simgt wrote: post #167

e2le wrote: post #16

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We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

How many people voted for that "one individual causing chaos" again? 70 million? He's also backed by billionaires and an administration that seems to be just as unhinged. It's not one person causing chaos, it's a whole country with its violent culture. The scale changed slightly, but it's also nothing new.

This. There are really two explanations here. Either the US hasn't been a democracy in the first place. Or the majority of the US voters prefer autocratic amoral psychopaths running their country.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by PowerElectronix » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 8:20 PM UTC

LeFantome wrote: post #110

ronnier wrote: post #29

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I think a large part of why they do this and vote the way they do is because of comments like yours. Hacker news, Reddit, award shows, movies, universities, etc all have a constant drum beat of disdain and hate towards them. I think this motivates them into voting even if the vote is against their own interest.

One third of Americans voted Democrat. One third voted Republican. One third did not vote. I hold the last group most responsible.

It's hard to blame it on people not voting for options that suck and do not represent their political stance.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by Cyph0n » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 8:50 PM UTC

e2le wrote: post #16

jghn wrote: post #5

Last week the US stated they didn't need any of the oil, and that if other countries wanted it they could go figure it out themselves. Looks like they have. And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

1. A non-trivial proportion of us voted for Trump.

2. Blatantly kidnapping and assassinating heads of state is the culmination of US foreign policy and not an anomaly. The machine is working as designed.

The only foreign policy blunders I would attribute to Trump are the completely unnecessary spats with Canada and Denmark/the EU, although neither blunder seems to have made a dent in the ass kissing.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by convolvatron » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 8:54 PM UTC

vntok wrote: post #119

nozzlegear wrote: post #95

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Yes? I've been a poll worker for every election since 2018, I have no reason to believe they won't be this time around. Do you have reason to believe that Trump isn't just full of hot air, bluster and bullshit like usual (TACO)?

Well yes, of course. For example this a month or so ago seems worrying: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/02/14/t... > US President Donald Trump, on Friday, February 13, threatened to try to bypass Congress and force new voting laws ahead of the November midterm elections, where his Republican Party fears losing control of the legislature. Trump said he would soon issue an executive order attemptin…

that makes absolute sense. on one hand legally voting process is delegated to the states, and we can argue about to what degree congress might be able to impose federal standards. but an executive order has absolutely no bearing on the situation legally.

but if you believe, as many people claim to, than an executive order is actually a federal law, then if some blue state decides to ignore such an executive order, then you can claim that the election process was tainted, illegal, and illegitimate. maybe you can even round up all the ballots in order to perform an 'investigation'. maybe send federal officers to check IDs. all kinds of things.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by andy_ppp » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 8:55 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #85

andy_ppp wrote: post #31

There’s every chance that the US loses the trust of the GCC countries and they choose to spend their oil money away from the US should all of this madness ever calm down.

It's extremely unlikely without a common currency and a military alliance with larger, more populous states like Egypt and Iraq. The former would be unacceptable as it would represent a competitor to the Petrodollar, and the latter would be a threat to Israel.

One of the conditions Iran has placed on ships travelling through the strait of Hormuz is that the oil is traded/purchased in RMB.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by actionfromafar » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 9:00 PM UTC

bebop wrote: post #127

actionfromafar wrote: post #123

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Do you think the ThielVance will leave peacefully?

They don’t have the cult of personality to hold on to power in the same way djt does.

Who needs personality when you got your own stormtroopers with guns?

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by thisislife2 » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 9:00 PM UTC

Maken wrote: post #46

Jensson wrote: post #15

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The only countries going to war with Iran are Israel and USA. The other countries are negotiating with Iran and reportedly paying the toll. Also, the strait has been open to Spanish tankers since two weeks ago.

While there are reports that Iran has been charging a toll on some ships from "hostile" countries, there is no such report suggesting that the French, Japanese and Omani ships cited in this news report did so too.

In this particular case, it is a diplomatic and reciprocal gesture of goodwill from Iran - the French have publicly said that joint military operations to open the Strait is a bad a idea and diplomatic options need to be pursued for the same while the Japanese have confirmed that they won't be sending any minesweepers to the Strait (Japan Isn’t Sending Minesweepers to Middle East, Takaichi Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-12/japan-isn... ). Oman, of course, has been the mediator in the early US-Iran negotiations, and has publicly said Iran cannot be blamed for the US-Israel attacks ('This war is not of their making,' Omani foreign minister says of Iran - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-not-their-making-oman... ) as it had accepted a new nuclear deal with the Trump administration during the negotiations (Peace ‘within reach’ as Iran agrees no nuclear material stockpile: Oman FM - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/28/peace-within-reach-... ). He has blamed the Trump administration for undermining negotiations and implied that they acted in bad faith.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by bdbdbdb » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 9:15 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #83

bdbdbdb wrote: post #43

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This. We all thought Trump was a crazy accident but the fact that he almost beat Biden, and then did beat Harris, means we just can't trust Americans to put sensible people in charge. Assuming a democrat takes the office next, they will inherit an economy in tatters, a failing infrastructure and a broken strategic alliance. They'll have four years to try to fix all of that while the republicans blame them for everyth…

Neither Biden nor Harris were sensible candidates. Democrats could have easily beat Trump by running a more appealing/less polarizing candidate. Didn't even have to be both. Obama was polarizing but he was appealing and he won comfortably.

> Neither Biden nor Harris were sensible candidates.

I just can't fathom how you can think this. How 25% of your country can think this. How 50% thought it wasn't worth voting for either.

America has lost its marbles

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by qwerpy » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #139

qwerpy wrote: post #76

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Unironically yes. I lived in the Seattle area and witnessed firsthand the effects of state/county/city Democrat rule. Gifted programs cancelled, streets full of homeless and drug addicts. Hateful people yelling at and flipping me off as I take my kids to daycare for the heinous crime of driving a Tesla. I’m a well educated highly paid minority, the kind of voter that Democrats take for granted. I voted Republican dow…

So, you did not voted for centrists and chosen to vote for nazi salute throwing radicals ... because there are non meek leftists groups. The only way to win against Trump voters like you is to ignore them, because people like you will choose nazi until nazi are the only game in town.

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by expedition32 » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

Jensson wrote: post #38

watwut wrote: post #26

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What are on about now? France explicitely and vocally refused to enter the war. That is why their tanker passed.

If that was true many more tankers would have passed from other countries that were more against the war. France is one of few countries with large military presence in the area, that is the only thing they do more than most other countries. Edit: And France even directly threatened to use force here. If you only read American news you wouldn't know since they want it to seem like the world is on Irans side here. Wha…

Nobody is on Iran's side. The world is not black and white.

Most countries want STABILITY not WAR. Yes Iranian regime is evil. Yes they kill people. And no that's not worth bombing them over.

There are politicians who actually THINK and do CALCULATIONS. This war has probably already cost the global economy a trillion USD.