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Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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Don't you know? If one elderly person gets scammed we all deserve to be infantilized.

(nevermind that the scams are extraordinarily likely to come through Meta, Google, Apple, Amazon)

They don't want users to find out who's the real scammer.

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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I’m only marginally aware of how these systems work, can someone more knowledgeable tell me the difference between Google’s implementation of this restriction and the restrictions already present on GrapheneOS? Is it correct to say that both are implemented for security reasons?

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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Why the hell should we "mother may I" with Google for running apps on our own phones if it isn't sourced from the Play Store? The "security" rationale is horseshit given just how much malware is readily download able on the Play Store. Google never cleans its own house before going after others.

It's not just the US, story through the grapevine is that Google is under a lot of pressure Asian governments over "online scams". (Allegedly the main actor behind this push is Singapore)

Poor, poor Google

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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Wouldn't it be something if, given all the surveillance already in place, law enforcement punished the scammers instead of the innocent?

The scammers are often in a very different country than the victim. Finding the scammer is only 50% of the work, the other 50% is diplomacy and hoping the other side is willing to extradite. This is not made easier if the police force in the scammer's country is extremely corrupt. This is why those scams so often rely on gift cards (or sometimes on cash which a local mule converts to crypto).

Many banking scams involve fake checks and deposits into other accounts, but I don’t see the government or banks taking active steps to stop them.

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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I would bet the amount of people getting scammed is probably higher than those installing NewPipe.

Because we hear so many stories where the scammer directed their target to install an app so that their scam works I know a lot more people that install newpipe than people that got scammed by any means , and have never heard of anyone being asked to install an app by a scammer

But I was scammed by newpipe! It said I can watch YouTube, but there aren't any ads! Now I don't know what to buy. It even had CCC Media, so now my videos are informative and insightful. Where's my influencers?!

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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When typos are inadvertently funny: > Google’s been working hard to relive everyone’s fears...

I came here to say something similar.

I somehow doubt there's a team at Google dedicated to roleplaying the nightmares of all living people :-D

When I saw your user name, I was like "I wonder if that's the C++ s11n guy", and sure enough, confirmed it by viewing your profile.

Glad to see you're still alive and kickin' -- hope you are doing well, despite life's challenges.

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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> Google's latest concession makes the sideloading controversy a big nothingburger Ah yes, having to now send in a government ID to publish apps on the Play Store is a "big nothingburger". Kindly piss off, megacorp bootlicker Stephen Schenck.

Didn't you always have to do that? I remember having to pay $25 by credit card (for which I had to get a credit card) and also show ID. When they banned me for bullshit reasons, now they can stop me circumventing it because they have my ID.

Re: Android’s new sideload settings will carry over to new devices

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Given the Epic settlement means Google is allowing alternate app stores, and also the delay only applies for unregistered developers, I'm not certain it won't actually get easier to get folk set up on F-Droid. It still remains to be seen what the actual requirements are, and even if F-Droid could become "approved" that doesn't mean they want to. Time will tell.

"only applies for unregistered developers" but remember the whole point is to allow Google to pull your "registered developer" status on a whim. Something they've shown over and over again they cannot be trusted with

But if there's a court order saying Epic and F-Droid have to be registered developers, they can go to jail for doing that.
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