I hate: Programming Wayland applications • Hacker News Board

Re: I hate: Programming Wayland applications

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Post by izacus » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 3:15 PM UTC

MintPaw wrote: post #157

izacus wrote: post #98

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No, nothing deserves this constant whining and crying day in and day out. Especially coming from people who don't put in the work to build something else. It's really bizarre how the opensource community degraded into this space of constant aggresive, insulting screeching over every single project thats actually moving something in the Linux world. Coming from people who don't put any code behind it or do anything bu…

> No, nothing deserves this constant whining and crying day in and day out. Why even try an start a conversation with that attitude? Wayland doesn't get nearly as much hate as Windows, Chrome, or iOS. But I guess literally nothing is worth writing an article that has the word "fuck" in it 7 times, because that crosses some kind of ultimate line?

It's kind of funny you're trying to tone police me in a comment threat full of hateful negative bile.

Re: I hate: Programming Wayland applications

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Post by queenkjuul » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 5:34 AM UTC

James_K wrote: post #180

vidarh wrote: post #179

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The problem with Wayland in this respect is that there is no such generic interface that works everywhere - each compositor may choose not to support it at all, or support it in different ways. If there was a single standard way, great. In the meantime I'll stick to X11, which isn't this incredibly user-hostile.

That is not a problem with Wayland because specifying this is not a within the purview of Wayland. People like you don't seem to understand that Wayland is specification, and not an implementation like X11.

No, i understand that, and consider it a failing of Wayland

Re: I hate: Programming Wayland applications

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Post by queenkjuul » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 5:37 AM UTC

James_K wrote: post #176

queenkjuul wrote: post #172

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So either every user needs to manually bind every command using their WM's bespoke global hotkey mechanism, or the developer needs to ship keybinds for every possible WM. Sounds like a nightmare for everyone involved to me

I think you've got it backwards. Applications like OBS do not typically register default global keybindings to avoid clobbering, you have to do it manually in their settings menu. The only difference with a generic interface is that the dialogue opened from the setting menu would be from the WM instead of OBS.

Yes, the generic interface which does not exist, has no defined standard, and is likely to be different for each WM.

That doesn't really change what i said.

Re: I hate: Programming Wayland applications

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Post by jqbd » Sat, Mar 28, 2026, 10:27 AM UTC

1313ed01 wrote: post #126

jqbd wrote: post #61

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Whole website is unreadable on mobile

Firefox Reader mode. As long as that works, as was the case on this site, I don't care how bad pages people make.

I switched to Brave cause switching applications caused pages to reload. I hit that on Brave too now, so might be just old phone too little RAM or sth