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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by adwn »

watwut wrote: post #154
lukan wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, now worries, I can take my bicycle or train whenever possible (like right now). And since I am european, I do not just worry about gasoline, but also that the US actually might attack us at some point, Trump did threaten again over greenland and the last time - it was not just words, danish troops took it serious and were ready to shoot. " https://www.euractiv.com/news/denmark-considered-destroying-... " Unpleasa…

Europe will be affected more then USA by oil prices.

Oil is a globally priced commodity. This means that downstream consumers of oil in the US will be just as affected by rising prices as European consumers. US producers of oil will benefit, though.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #159
galactus wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that if you start an unjustified war of agression against a country and you kill 150 children, you should be held responsible

What if it happens as a result of trying to hold someone worse responsible?

> someone worse

You do not get to decide that. If we allow everyone to invade other countries and murder leaders because they deem those people worse than themselves, the world will be engaged in endless war. Or do you think perhaps deciding who to invade and kill is a special privilege reserved only for your country, which should be emperor of the world?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #135
flyinglizard wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

Destroying a school is not an "oopsie". It should literally not be possible for it to happen in any organization that values human life at all. This was a precision strike with three missiles hitting the same target, they should have been goddamn sure they knew where the millions of dollars in ordnance they were launching for the purpose of ending human life were headed. Of course, the US military places zero value o…

I notice you're not critical of Iran's military intentionally firing on civilians. Why?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by ykonstant »

hakrgrl wrote: post #161
Waterluvian wrote: post #120

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Or machine gun defence when you're protecting tens of thousands of Iranians from the Islamist regime. The difference is the US had bad intelligence and acknowledges it's a tragedy. The regime intentionally murders by the thousands and would murder more if it wasn't thwarted by the US and Israel. And somehow you're more upset about the former not the latter. > Since the beginning of the 2025–2026 Iranian protests, the…

whatabout iran

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by hakrgrl »

mrbombastic wrote: post #178
hakrgrl wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"reality and sanity"? The reality is the US gave them cash to improve their living standards and enrich their country, not their uranium. With that money they chose to massacre their own people and fund terrorism across the region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

Account created 52 days ago and working over time ever since to defend trump and the regime. No submissions. Color me skeptical.

Skeptical of what, exactly?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by hypeatei »

flyinglizard wrote: post #62
lukan wrote: post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

> That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now?

Did you not see the lead up to the 2024 election and all the whining about how Biden, specifically, caused gasoline prices to go up? This is a very important issue to Americans because we use gas cars to go everywhere and all our food is transported using vehicles that consume gas. GP is obviously being rhetorical here because MAGAs wouldn't stop railing on Biden for global COVID inflation (mostly out of his control) but they're now making excuses for Trump starting a war that's spiking gas prices.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by trimethylpurine »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #182
trimethylpurine wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if it happens as a result of trying to hold someone worse responsible?

> someone worse You do not get to decide that. If we allow everyone to invade other countries and murder leaders because they deem those people worse than themselves, the world will be engaged in endless war. Or do you think perhaps deciding who to invade and kill is a special privilege reserved only for your country, which should be emperor of the world?

If a guy pays soldiers to sneak into another country, kidnap rape and murder children, and continues similar behavior for 4 decades I can decide he's worse than Trump. I do get to decide that. Some things are worse than others.

The preceding comment was about holding someone responsible. It appears you might have misunderstood that mine points out that this is exactly how the school was hit.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by pjc50 »

hakrgrl wrote: post #99
nullzzz wrote: post #65

Well done! I don’t quite agree with making fun of the situation that’s deadly serious to many innocent people. Yet I’m sure the intentions of the author were good. Hoping for peace.

I don't really agree with rooting against the USA just because you don't like the president. An Islamist Iran with nukes is a scary proposition. I'm glad someone is finally doing something about it rather than sending palettes of cash on an jet to radical Muslims.

> palettes of cash on an jet to radical Muslims.

You mean the US bipartisan strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Is there any plan to do this differently to those expensive failures?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by 3842056935870 »

galactus wrote: post #117
flyinglizard wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think some evil military planners sat in the Pentagon, saw that school, said "let's shoot at it for shits and giggles" and pressed the button? Or are you trying to pollute a grown up conversation with sensationalism and punchy hooks? In reality someone made a mistake. It can happen. It should be investigated. It should not deter from achieving the military objectives.

I think that if you start an unjustified war of agression against a country and you kill 150 children, you should be held responsible

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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Post by samus »

flyinglizard wrote: post #62
lukan wrote: post #48

Ok, I did win. Do I get cheaper gasoline now?

That's it? Momentary gasoline price is all that matters now? Not geopolitical interests, alliances, _Doing The Right Thing_? If that's the only angle you care about, then US subduing the Iranian regime would go a long way to de-facto dissolving OPEC and bring much more flexibility to oil prices.

East Asian economies are severely affected by high fuel prices. People need it to fuel their boats, to get to work, and to heat their homes. And it's the input to many critical industries, most importantly to make fertilizer. Not all countries's stockpiles are large enough to sit this out.
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