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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by owlmirror » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:24 PM UTC

MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #57

xvector wrote: post #36

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Absolutely nothing wrong with an "agentic OS", agentic UX is the future of personal computing. The ideal is that something intelligent understands what you want to do and gets it done. Unless you really think we've reached the pinnacle of user interface with repetitive clicking around and menus. The problem is with shoving AI down user's throats. Make it an option, not the only option.

What would an agentic UX look like that is better than the current OS experience? typing "open hackernews" into copilot instead of clicking the browser and typing hackernews? 99% of OS interactions already boil down to 2 clicks and a search phrase.

- "summarize the discussions on hacker news of last week based on what I would find interesting".

- "Plan my summer vacation with my family, suggest different options"

- "Look at my household budget and find ways to be more frugal."

There are thousands of things I can think of when it comes to how an agentic OS would work better than the current Screen Keyboard paradigm. I mean all these things I could now do with Claude or Codex and some of these things I already do with these tools.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by cyberax » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:24 PM UTC

xvector wrote: post #36

binsquare wrote: post #16

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Don't congratulate yet until you see actual outcomes. The author of this commitment is the same person (Pavan Davuluri) spearheading move of Windows into an Agentic OS: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-...

Absolutely nothing wrong with an "agentic OS", agentic UX is the future of personal computing. The ideal is that something intelligent understands what you want to do and gets it done. Unless you really think we've reached the pinnacle of user interface with repetitive clicking around and menus. The problem is with shoving AI down user's throats. Make it an option, not the only option.

There's nothing wrong with an "agentic OS" if it's built on top of a regular good OS.

There's everything wrong when "agentic" means that the regular bread-and-butter functionality of the OS becomes unusable.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by nixpulvis » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:24 PM UTC

thih9 wrote: post #133

nixpulvis wrote: post #109

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So Apple Intelligence doesn't bother you?

FWIW, I clicked “skip” on a popup to set up apple intelligence and I didn’t see it again. Of course this might change in future. And Mac OS has other popups where there is no “skip” and only “remind me later”.

Not technically under the umbrella of Apple Intelligence, but you might be surprised to find out what photoanalysisd is doing.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by jacquesm » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #170

ChicagoDave wrote: post #105

No one wants copilot. You can make it an app, but any OS level integration is a non-starter. My next laptop will be a MacBook Pro. My Surface Laptop 5 will be collecting dust in case I need it, but that’s highly unlikely.

I just don't think people like having something shoved down their throats. The dedicated Copilot button on keyboards and adding Copilot shortcuts all over the OS (and automatic popups/ads) was far too far. I think OS level integrations that are opt-in, not opt-out, may even be popular. But they have to be done carefully and tastefully.

I have the same feeling about any kind of integration. We're moving away from Google because we simply do not want to have this kind of forced relationship with products and/or services. It either fits and we'll pick it or it does not and then we don't. We won't pay for things we do not intend to use. And we don't want exposure to products that may constitute a security or a privacy risk.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by arikrahman » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

Glad I made the move to Linux when I did. The taskbar being moveable would've passed as satire if it wasn't an offical post.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by jacquesm » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:25 PM UTC

Someone1234 wrote: post #6

They're saying all the right things here. Fixing long-standing complaints, removing Copilot from obnoxious places, improvements to Windows Update and Windows Explorer stability/microstutter/lag, etc. I congratulate them on seeing sense, and I congratulate Apple on another victory with the Neo. Kind of frustrating that's what it took for Microsoft to finally listen to their userbase.

All this means is that it will go underwater.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by sergiotapia » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:26 PM UTC

It's crazy how windows blew its dominance isn't it?

Even for gaming, the only reason why I would stick with windows is not an issue anymore. Thanks to Steam gaming just works on Linux. I'm using Omarchy and it's very easy.

I can't see ever going back to windows personally.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by miyuru » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:26 PM UTC

kevmo wrote: post #46

Microsoft needs to be broken up.

I don't think there will any thing to broken if they go down this path.

They are still investing in AI, when they should be investing in ARM.

Apple silon is winning developers, even enterprise and with NEO the entry level market where MS was king.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by AJRF » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:26 PM UTC

It's like watching someone wake up with a very bad hangover.

I am doing my part - I managed to get 6 people in my family and friend group off Windows onto Debian last year.

All positive feedback so far :).

Sure it's only a small victory - but a meaningful one to me.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by kxrm » Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 9:27 PM UTC

pianoben wrote: post #116

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #111

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Or onedrive integrations and constant ‘backup your computer now’ popups which are _advertisements_ for onedrive, or Netflix, Spotify, or LinkedIn pre-installed and difficult to remove, or all of the above reinstalling during windows updates. In fact, basically any feature added since Windows 10 is probably unwanted.

As if Apple doesn't berate you with unskippable notifications to sign up for iCloud, buy more space, etc etc?

I have been on a MacBook Pro exclusively for the past 3 years and I do not ever see anything about iCloud. I also never signed up so may be that is why?