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Re: “Your frustration is the product”

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I used to work at a startup that was trying to replace ads as the funding source for news (we failed, obviously) but the crazy thing we discovered is that the people who run news websites mostly don’t know where their ads are coming from, have forgotten how the ad system was installed in the first place, and cannot turn them off if they try we actually shipped a server-side ad blocker, for a parter who had so complet…

If I may, what was your vision? What were you aiming to replace the ads with?

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

Re: “Your frustration is the product”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I may, what was your vision? What were you aiming to replace the ads with?

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

Isn’t that Apple News+? Cheaper than $20, too.

Alternatively, Libby is free (and yes, legal, though not available everywhere).

Re: “Your frustration is the product”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I may, what was your vision? What were you aiming to replace the ads with?

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

What frustrates me to no end, is that Youtube makes about $2 per user per month from ads. Yet if i want to go ad free, they expect me to pay $14 per month.

Why in the hell would they not just sell it to me at cost for $2. Heck, I'll even say I'll be a customer for the REST OF TIME if they did that. I understand why Netflix and other vendors charge $12 - $20 because it has to pay for the copyright. But Youtube does NOT. It's a fucking scam to make us pay a premium.

I refuse to buy Youtube ad free until they drop the price to something $3 or below...

Re: “Your frustration is the product”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

What frustrates me to no end, is that Youtube makes about $2 per user per month from ads. Yet if i want to go ad free, they expect me to pay $14 per month. Why in the hell would they not just sell it to me at cost for $2. Heck, I'll even say I'll be a customer for the REST OF TIME if they did that. I understand why Netflix and other vendors charge $12 - $20 because it has to pay for the copyright. But Youtube does NO…

Presumably because advertisers won't continue to pay $2/user/month for a pool of users that has been denuded of all the users with three bucks a month to rub together for ad-free YouTube.

Re: “Your frustration is the product”

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

What frustrates me to no end, is that Youtube makes about $2 per user per month from ads. Yet if i want to go ad free, they expect me to pay $14 per month. Why in the hell would they not just sell it to me at cost for $2. Heck, I'll even say I'll be a customer for the REST OF TIME if they did that. I understand why Netflix and other vendors charge $12 - $20 because it has to pay for the copyright. But Youtube does NO…

My guess is that the $2/user/month thing is an average across all of the users, and the fact that you use YouTube enough to even consider to pay to go ad free puts you in the much higher range of dollars-per-month users such that $14/month may even lose them money.

Re: “Your frustration is the product”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I may, what was your vision? What were you aiming to replace the ads with?

I have been waiting for "Netflix for news or magazines". Pay $20 a month and get access to multiple publishers.

I would gladly pay an extra $20/m for a Disney style internet fast pass where I can browse any site that is subscribed to the service without ads, cookie preferences already set, no login or login managed by the extension for the fast pass service, and maybe a search provider that allows me to filter out SSO spam sites and adwhores like Meta and Google, and where some significant portion of my monthly pay is sent to the participating sites I browse.

My only overriding and most prominent concern is that given how every other webservice has been, that once they have sufficient ownership of the space they will increase the cost, likely significantly, and then they will likely add in their own ads on top of everything else.

It will take a literal once in a century genius to make something like this that actually works and that companies will latch onto.

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