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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Maybe even just a single auction in the afternoon.

one per week should do it.

Honestly what would happen if the stock market didn't exist. It seems like these days the price of stock is so disconnected from lived reality that genuinely confused if it would be all that catastrophic

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

> if companies reported dollars in and dollars out live to shareholders at least we would have an idea of how the company is doing in a general sense.

Goodhart's law is knocking on your door right now.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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24/7 trading sounds like a nightmare. “Your retirement savings crashed 30% because there wasn’t enough liquidity to cover a 3am panic over non-news”.

The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

In the past, stupid situations on Wall Street have not resolved that way; they've resulted in disasters that cause economic harm to many people in the country and the world. Though sometimes people on Wall Street do make money from those situations.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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That is an absurd cadence. It is extremely expensive to do this reporting; an an enormous amount of useless activity is slaved to providing it in companies that need to. This is literally a call for more bureaucracy theater. The obvious net effect is that companies would structure themselves to no longer have the reporting requirement, as the cost of reporting exceeds the benefits. That would not benefit society at l…

The reason quarters take so long to close is because the numbers are being fiddled with. There's no reason someone shouldn't be able to close a quarter and report the numbers with the automation we have today in technology, meaning without some magic AI/LLM, other than people are constantly trying to reclassify expenses or income in a way that saves the quarter Why, after 30-40 years of modern computing in accounting…

My fiancee is the accounting manager at a university. Why? Because people don't submit expenses on time, invoices are delayed or some still done manually, and all manner of things. Even for them it can take a couple of weeks.

While there may be some "hijinks" (in their case, institutional advancement likes to steadily rearrange endowments or donations to take advantage of offers to match donations, etc., but that's not really a delay, as accounting basically says things like "No, that gift has already been spent"). Even with things like Concur or Expensify, expenses aren't classified on time, submitted for reimbursement, etc.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

In the past, stupid situations on Wall Street have not resolved that way; they've resulted in disasters that cause economic harm to many people in the country and the world. Though sometimes people on Wall Street do make money from those situations.

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#186

Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

This is a manipulation enabler. I’m surprised no one is mentioning this, but it’ll allow companies like SpaceX and Tesla to avoid scrutiny. The other changes the SEC and NASDAQ are rushing all have donors behind them. That’s how this openly corrupt administration works but it’s also how America has generally operated in the past, only to a smaller degree.

> it’s also how America has generally operated in the past

It's not. That's why we have the rules that they are recinding, and why the US has long had among the the most transparent, safest, and liquid markets in the world.

Saying that 'it's always been this way' is a really concerted effort to bury one's head in the sand.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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ultimately supply and demand should result in less demand for the stock of companies that do not provide adequate transparency about results.

Supporters of the idea would likely say: "But considering that stock price crashes result in government bailouts, why bother reporting bad news since it just panics everyone and necessitates a bailout that shouldn't have been necessary."

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#189

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one per week should do it.

Honestly what would happen if the stock market didn't exist. It seems like these days the price of stock is so disconnected from lived reality that genuinely confused if it would be all that catastrophic

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#190

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one per week should do it.

Honestly what would happen if the stock market didn't exist. It seems like these days the price of stock is so disconnected from lived reality that genuinely confused if it would be all that catastrophic

I hypothesize all dividends, no share value. How would that world look
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