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Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by albatross79 »

slibhb wrote: post #78
ifwinterco wrote: post #67

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That's such a big disparity I'm very suspicious of that data, but there seems to be plenty of evidence that grossly excessive cardiovascular exercise is bad for you in various ways. If people enjoy it and really get a lot out of it then I wouldn't judge them for doing it, but let's not pretend it's healthy, because all the evidence is that it isn't. In terms of cardio being able to run a half decent 5k a couple of ti…

Claiming that distance running is unhealthy is wild. It can lead to injury, and there's such thing as overtraining. But to claim that it's broadly unhealthy is just wrong

Why wouldn't it be, you think the body was made to run all day? Most animals lay around all day with some bursts of activity. The exercise fad is just a peculiar neuroticism modern Westerners have.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by Freedom2 »

pdpi wrote: post #164
Freedom2 wrote: post #161

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One thing I've noticed is that Americans typically use the latter while conversing.

(Nearly) everybody does, it's not an American thing. It takes a bit of personal discipline to avoid it.

As someone who has worked in three different countries in a variety of positions, Americans conversed in that way in proportions far larger than other countries.

Now this may be due to sampling on my end, but I did find the difference extraordinary when asking the same questions to different people.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by BobaFloutist »

h4kr1 wrote: post #80
butILoveLife wrote: post #14

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After a ton of research, I think the generic suggestion 'Fiber' is not helpful. Some things to consider: >There are classifications of fiber, insoluable vs soluable >Even those classifications are overly generalized, and can/should be broken down into basically individual foods. >Fiber and the various types have impact on your gut bacteria. If your gut bacteria is bad, you might be fueling growth of bad bacteria. >Yo…

>I'm guessing the colon cancer thing is probably due to pollutants > You don't actually need fiber Hey, you know what fiber is good for? Speeding up gut motility! You know what a faster gut motility is good for! Getting toxins out of our body quicker!

But there's two kinds of fiber, one of them which is healthy because it speeds up gut motility, and the other because it inhibits gut motility.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by Pxtl »

z9e wrote: post #107
Pxtl wrote: post #52

Amazing how everybody in this thread has posted their pet theories as to cause: - insufficient fibre - too much high fructose corn syrup - too much milk - too much citric acid - toxins and parasites (gut cleanse!) - washing chicken in chlorine (voiced as hypothetical) - ultra-marathoners - maybe their supplements and too much carbs or dehydration? - too much processed junk - vitamin and mineral deficiencies - radiati…

Yeah. Amazing how people on a forum are offering their opinions on something. Let’s point and laugh at them. /s I’m more amazed at the toxic (no pun intended) comments in this post. It seems HN isn’t a place to voice health theories.

"health theories" is how we got a nice new batch of measles outbreaks.

I work with health research doctors and I've too much respect for them to humour "health theories". And they don't tell me how to do my job either.

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by Pxtl »

jancsika wrote: post #137
nativeit wrote: post #79

As a Multiple Sclerosis patient since I was a teenager, let me just say: all you “healthy diet” zealots aren’t helping. Your advice on which blended kale and gogi berry smoothie I should try is cringe and annoying. Normally, the person is right in front of me, and well-intentioned, so I typically smile and politely thank them with a non-committal gesture towards trying it someday. But since this is all one-party and…

> As a Multiple Sclerosis patient since I was a teenager, let me just say: all you “healthy diet” zealots aren’t helping. I don't understand the relevance to the article. Does Multiple Sclerosis come with a higher risk of colon cancer?

It's not about the article, its' about the flotilla of comments in this thread with unfounded layman "theories" about dietary changes that are the root cause rising colon cancer rates.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

franktankbank wrote: post #169
dbspin wrote: post #126

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One hundred percent. I work in film, and recently had an argument with a friend around this point. He's incredibly healthy, and frequently works a large number of unsociable hours. I was pointing out that filmmaking hours make no concession for family or age. He'd convinced himself that he'll have no more difficulty doing 80 hour weeks in his forties and fifties than he does in his mid thirties, because he 'takes car…

Certainly people work their way up and fade into a less strenuous role. Surely they don't just kick people to the curb. That would suck.

(Laughs in post 50 year old software developer)

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Post by secstate »

akramachamarei wrote: post #172
secstate wrote: post #165

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This. I'm as exhausted as anyone about the latest macro/micro nutrient diet. But also, when I binge on a bag of potato chips, I assume (correctly) that I'll feel like shit later. Calorie dense food that's easily procured and eaten to excess was not part of our evolutionary path up to now. Every individual person is a cornucopia of variables though too, and one persons perfect diet would kill someone else. So advice i…

> one persons perfect diet would kill someone else Besides allergies, that's not literally true, is it? Or would you say that allergies or severe intolerances are common enough that such dramatic diet fitness differences exist?

I think we're only beginning to appreciate just how sensitive our guts are to the abuse modern high-calorie food can dish out.

Honestly, given the extent to which many people's diets consist primarily of bleached and re-enriched wheat separated from the germ or simply refined corn, I think there are many more people who are slowly poisoned by their diet than realize it.

Yet there's plenty of hyperbole in my statement too. I don't think you could murder someone by making them eat your diet, unless it consisted of bags of broken glass.

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Post by furyofantares »

achandra03 wrote: post #104
nativeit wrote: post #79

As a Multiple Sclerosis patient since I was a teenager, let me just say: all you “healthy diet” zealots aren’t helping. Your advice on which blended kale and gogi berry smoothie I should try is cringe and annoying. Normally, the person is right in front of me, and well-intentioned, so I typically smile and politely thank them with a non-committal gesture towards trying it someday. But since this is all one-party and…

I think this is probably due to people suffering from the just-world fallacy. Most folks like to believe that if you do the right things and consume the right stuff you'll have a long and healthy life when the fact of the matter is that luck/randomness plays a much larger role in your health than most people would like to admit.

That plus not realizing that dealing with your chronic illness can be as much or more than a full time job, and the people with them tend to know MOUNTAINS more than you do about it.

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Post by dham »

ceedan wrote: post #124
dham wrote: post #19

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North Carolina. And I wasn't actually aware that some doctors wouldn't do until after I had it done (reading about it online). I just called before my appointment to say I didn't need sedation. They said ok and wrote it down. They weren't really pushy during the appointment other than asking me why I didn't want sedation. I thought it was going to be awkward but wasn't at all. We just chatted. It was him and an assis…

"They weren't really pushy during the appointment" (:

haha, didn't catch that

Re: Colon cancer now leading cause of cancer deaths under 50 in US

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Post by dham »

rootusrootus wrote: post #33
dham wrote: post #19

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North Carolina. And I wasn't actually aware that some doctors wouldn't do until after I had it done (reading about it online). I just called before my appointment to say I didn't need sedation. They said ok and wrote it down. They weren't really pushy during the appointment other than asking me why I didn't want sedation. I thought it was going to be awkward but wasn't at all. We just chatted. It was him and an assis…

For people who might be interested in following your advice, the conventional wisdom is that you should definitely look around when choosing the doctor. I.e. do not use a regular gastroenterologist who primarily does sedated colonoscopies, you want one who has experience with non-sedated ones. They have a better idea of what hurts and how to mitigate that.

Yea good point. My doctor said he would see a non sedated like once every 2 weeks or so. Would be better to go to one that does it more frequently.
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