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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#181

I still don't know whether a drone attack is less worse than a suicide attack. I guess that's another war to end all wars to add to the list

A done attack is utterly predictable though? Ukraine and Russia have been doing drone attacks on each other by air, sea and on land for years now. To great effect. It should be expected, not surprising at all.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#182

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I think you underestimate how much Iranians hate their current regime..

Telegram is full of gigantic rallies all hours of the day and night supporting the Iranian government. Even street interviews with young women (no hijab!) claiming they were formerly protesters but aren't going to tolerate foreigners bombing their country. Do you have some solid sources on the ground to the contrary?

All the Iranians I personally know. About 15 families.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#183
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> in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. USA, Europe, and many other countries depend on China for manufacturing. I doubt that this is going to solve inflation. But it will fill the pockets of a few people in oil rich countries that can still export.

Inflation is currently at 2.4%. How much lower do you want it to go?

Still above the fed's 2% target.

And it will go higher now. And given the President's hatered for high interest rates and the next fed chairman being a garden-variety lick-spittle, things are not looking up.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#184
post #49

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> That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far The Ukraine would like to have a word.

Underwater drones, not drones in general.

Ukraine has been sinking Russian warships in their harbor using underwater drones for at least a year now.

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#186
post #43

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> That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far The Ukraine would like to have a word.

The drones that are mainly used there are the flying kind.

Ukraine completely locked up the Russian fleet inside its bases with the underwater drones.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#187

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It would be cheaper just to build an oil pipeline around it than to cover insurance and risk through that Strait. It would do well to just forget the Strait exists, our conflict has taken it out of commission for the indefinite future.

Let's replace a choke point by an even smaller single static point of failure transporting highly flammable content, are you an adviser for the white house? If not you should apply

You might be surprised to find out the Abu Dhabi pipeline, which does this exact thing, is still running.

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#188

An Iraqi security source said they think it was an Iranian boat rigged with explosives. If Iran does have underwater explosive drones, why would they boast about it and invite attacks upon that weapon and its deployment systems?

It might have been a low-observable watercraft like the Sea Baby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Baby A true UUV attack is probably outside Iran's wheelhouse, but cutting-down an attack speedboat to the waterline seems very realistic.

Why would it be outside of Iran capabilities? They are the ones who provided Russia with Shahed drones.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#189
post #11

Why did we have to go through all this pain. Was that really necessary? And given we mostly talk about technology here, let me put this through that lens: With all the technology advancement and improvement with access to information in the last 30 years, why does it feel that all of this culminates to more disinformation, more pain, and less understanding?

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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#190
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One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

I would bet Trump just shot himself in the foot with this war, after midterms he will be a "lame duck" pres the remainder of his administration, relying on executive orders, which his opponents will merely take to liberal judges to have them stricken down. The final straw near the end of his term may be selling pardons to any takers.
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