New farm bill would condemn pigs to a lifetime in gestation crates

Post by hshdhdhj4444 » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:24 AM UTC

nebula8804 wrote: post #178

Havoc wrote: post #22

The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing

The ship may have sailed for a lot of consumers. This along with EVs are one of those things that people try once and if they don't like it they won't try again. Probably helps to explain why all the stocks of these companies were riding high for quite a while but then collapsed. How do you rebrand after people have already associated your product with past failed incumbents?

Post by joegibbs » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:30 AM UTC

aristofun wrote: post #170

xboxnolifes wrote: post #155

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Where is the inconsistency in being ok with killing an animal and eating it and wanting the time leading up to their death to not be misery?

How it can be more miserable than it already is - being animal slave from birth to guaranteed death (don’t tell me animals can’t feel it from adjacent room/building)?

Post by stouset » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 2:56 AM UTC

aziaziazi wrote: post #105

trylfthsk wrote: post #14

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Not entirely convinced that outside the torment nexuses used in industrial meat farming, natural suffering is any lesser sans humanity.

Estimated scale of the torment nexuses : https://considerveganism.com/counter/

Post by akramachamarei » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 4:17 AM UTC

grimblee wrote: post #142

akramachamarei wrote: post #136

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Capitalism precisely precludes slavery. One of the most important and foundational of its principles is private property. The first, most natural, and universal instance of private property is the ownership of one's own body. Heck, we even have the phrase "private parts." Slavery requires the most basic violation of bodily autonomy. In other words, to permit slavery is to permit the violation of the most basic proper…

Go ask kids forced to work for years in cocoa plants or coltan mins in africa what they think of your little explaination

Post by vrighter » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 5:21 AM UTC

blks wrote: post #160

danaris wrote: post #145

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Many, many people disagree with you. It is not at all a logical, ethical, or emotional contradiction to say that we should have humanely-raised livestock whose purpose is to be slaughtered for meat. We can ensure that they are kept in healthy, safe, and humane ways during their lifetimes, and are killed as quickly, cleanly, and painlessly as we can reasonably manage. And, um, the meaning of "humane" is only loosely r…

As unethical as purposefully murdering animals? I don’t think you can call it a compassion when you own an animal with sole purpose of efficiently growing it and then killing it so its body can be dismembered and sold off. This is treating animals as property, that produces profit.