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Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI

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You can have optional assignments and quizzes that serve that purpose. If you take away the credit given for homework, you still can give feedback, while removing any incentive to cheat.

Few students do optional assignments unfortunately. Other tasks that are directly worth a gradetend to take priority (e.g. studying for another class that has an exam this week).

1. Class attendance is frequently optional, but students still attend.

2. I had a prof. that didn't require homework be done. He would give out "practice fun" and would gladly sit down, give feedback and 1:1 time to those who completed it, or tried. He also pointed out that it was rare to pass the exams for students who didn't do "practice fun". Most people did the work.

It leads me to believe - from my own experience too - that students generally aren't stupid, and will gladly do the work if there is a point. Plenty of homework is pure busywork though, even at the college level.

Re: Training students to prove they're not robots is pushing them to use more AI

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> but the tools are pretty good. I encourage you to give them a try. I have given them a try and can confirm the exact opposite. Plenty of others have given them tries and have confirmed the exact opposite. Regardless, the “better for a hundred guilty men to go free than for one innocent man to hang” principle applies here.

No it doesn't. This is armchair philosophy when pragmatism and problem solving serve better. Fundamentals - Teaching is expensive, and we don't have enough teachers. Verifying if someone has the skills is difficult. Given the shortage of teachers, and the difficulty of verification, we ways to bridge the gap. The first step is always going to be to spend more on education, especially in underserved areas. The new opt…

> This is armchair philosophy when pragmatism and problem solving serve better.

Punishing innocent people out of negligence is not pragmatism, and refusing to tolerate such punishment is not armchair philosophy.

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