This is driving me crazy for some time. Worst with Calendar. (don't looook)
macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
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#182As jarring as "radiuses"? I guess not.
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#184Why should the two window varieties have the same corner radius? There's no design analysis here, only conservatism.
Because when they overlap, you want to resize the top one.
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#186This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…
The 3 slightly different corner styles are, honestly, pretty funny.
Or some well-done malicious compliance.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> this particular thing is not new. Article author here. I think the quoted claim is somewhat misleading. There are at least two different ways to interpret a UI feature as "not new": 1) The feature has been in the operating system all along. 2) Something analogous existed 40 years ago and then disappeared long ago. You're referring to 2, not 1. The only reason I chose Calculator app for my screenshot is that its win…
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response! You're right, what I had in mind was 2, although a bit more general; I think there have been similar kinds of inconsistency in the Mac UI since the beginning, in various forms, almost always intentional. So I think it would be wrong simply to say "the UI has gone a cliff, they've just thrown away their own HMI guidelines." You can certainly dislike what they've done (a…
> So I think it would be wrong simply to say "the UI has gone a cliff, they've just thrown away their own HMI guidelines."
My own view is that Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard was the beginning of the end, and it's gone downhill ever since.
> they at least have a somewhat logical goal in mind -- in this case, making the corners neatly fit various different kinds of window content.
I would emphasize "somewhat", because as noted, the corners do not neatly fit the window content at the bottom, which is ironic, because Apple claims that their intention is to emphasize the content, but their implementation actually clips the content!
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#188The justification by Apple is that it keeps the concentricity between window corner and the red/green/yellow window controls. Which, as you may notice, it does. It's wrong though, because the window is the higher element in the hierarchy (container) and should not be affected by what is inside. It creates a larger inconsistency than the "consistency" it supposedly brings.
Here's a Finder window screenshot from Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah: https://512pixels.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/10-0-Cheeta... Notice two things: 1) The window chrome with traffic lights and title is entirely separate from the toolbar, not unified with the toolbar. 2) The top of the window is rounded, but the bottom of the window is not! I think the old design was superior for several reasons, one of which is that it…
It’s a great desktop environment. I wish I could install it. I’m trying to install the CDE on a parallel’s FreeBSD VM but it doesn’t relaunch after rebooting it.
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#189This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…
OCD is a real thing
Re: macOS Tahoe windows have different corner radiuses
#190This one really bothers me. Whenever maximizing or tiling my windows (which is all the time), I see multiple layers of oddly rounded corners. I think if there's any upside to Tahoe, the grievances may push me into blogging for the first time ever, because I can't keep these to myself. I actually feel sorry for Apple's developers because there's no way you ship software this bad and inconsistent unless you've been han…
There is so much of that in modern apple. Clear issues caused by a seemingly bright idea, but the idea still pushed forward no matter what. One example that I hate on iOS: the notification/lockscreen curtain is supposed to cover the content as it slides down. That’s what a curtain does, this has been the language for years. Now the curtain is transparent, so it can’t cover the content behind. How does the content dis…
Steve Jobs may have been the ultimate editor. Jobs was an expert at saying "No" when it came to product decisions. He is sorely missed at modern Apple. It took a while for the cracks to pile up, but the dam has fully broken now.