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Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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It opens the door for Democratic administrations to do the same to vendors for their own political reasons. That’s ultimately why Ted Cruz spoke out about the Kimmel cancelation. It doesn’t take long until those powers are turned against you.

Yeah, now that this door is cracked open, it's now possible to decapitate SpaceX, which is at least as natsec-critical as Anthropic. The owner is a drug addict, has business interests in China, and is a Russian sympathizer (recall all the restrictions on Ukraine using Starlink), which all together is way stronger evidence for SCR designation than anything Anthropic has done. They're quickly going to come to regret op…

Trump isn’t planning on ever leaving office before his death. His sycophants will just say yes in the hopes of unconditional pardons. They know they’ll never hold a position of power again so they’re grabbing everything they can while they can.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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So, DoD has done what it said it would. And OpenAI has jumped on the opportunity. I'm curious what'll openai signatories on notdivided.org do now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473 Remain undivided in spirit while grinding for OpenAI?

Congress must approve any renaming the Department of Defense... They haven't. Stop giving them what they want without them even doing it in good faith at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_De...

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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post #69

So, DoD has done what it said it would. And OpenAI has jumped on the opportunity. I'm curious what'll openai signatories on notdivided.org do now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473 Remain undivided in spirit while grinding for OpenAI?

"jumped on the opportunity" is possible, but per https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-whole-thing-was-scam it's plausible that OpenAI created this situation through straightforward bribery.

> OpenAI exec becomes top Trump donor with $25 million gift

> https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/brockman-openai-top-trum...

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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I canceled my subscription, but have not yet exported and deleted because I'm an idiot, and also because I'm not sure if deleting it will have any actual impact (is it a hard delete? Likely not, even if they say it is). And I'm just trying to play out what happens if Anthropic, and Google (if they haven't already), capitulate. Am I just going to forego using the best models and suffer any repercussions of not having…

It’s not a hard delete because for legal reasons, they may have to retain it

Supposedly they hold your deleted conversations/projects for 30 days. If that is true or not, idk, but it was asked when this first started.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Anthropic should never have gotten into bed with the military or intelligence services to begin with. They wanted to make a deal with the devil and dictate the terms, that is the problem. If they had stayed out this wouldn’t be happening. Yes, someone else will probably step in and do all the evil you have just refused to do, but that isn’t a reason to instead decide to do it personally. Note that I give them a lot o…

The military is perhaps the biggest possible customer around. They do plenty of things that aren't blowing people up. It's not bad to help with non combat tasks.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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This designation is usually reserved for foreign adversaries/companies, and so this is crazy to apply it to US company over a sudden contract dispute... that was previously agreed upon by all parties. This should make any US company nervous about entering into an agreement with the government. Or any US company that already has a contract with the government. If they one day decide they don't like that contract, they…

> This should make any US company nervous

"Nice little business ya got here -- it'd be shame if something happened to it..."

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Anthropic should never have gotten into bed with the military or intelligence services to begin with. They wanted to make a deal with the devil and dictate the terms, that is the problem. If they had stayed out this wouldn’t be happening. Yes, someone else will probably step in and do all the evil you have just refused to do, but that isn’t a reason to instead decide to do it personally. Note that I give them a lot o…

According to legend the devil adheres precisely to the terms of the contacts he signs; it's usually the foolhardy peasant who didn't notice the fine print.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#189

Does anyone know which law firm is representing anthropic?

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Tainted? Because they refused to change a contract that was already signed to allow for surveillance of Americans and fully autonomous kill bots? I guarantee, if a sane and non-fascist administration ever takes power again Anthropic will be forgiven. Being attacked by this administration is an honor. OpenAI on the other hand…

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Would this mean Any systems built with Claude in defense environments may need to be rebuilt or removed?

From what I understand it cannot be used to perform work on contracts where the DoW is on the other side. [1]

In practice I would suspect companies with such contracts would play it safe by outright banning the use of Anthtropic products, even if they could technically be used for work on contracts with other parties.

[1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-comments-secretary-...

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