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Building a new Flash

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Re: Building a new Flash

#183
Sometimes I give presentations about how awesome the browser is. And everytime it reminds of all the capabilities we had back in the time. Easy animations, sound, 3D, augmented reality. Yea, we've got HTML5. But it took years to even come close to what we could do with Flash and Actionscript. Let alone how easy it was to create super cool animations.

Re: Building a new Flash

#184

I made Flash Games back in the day. Here's my old profile on Newgrounds: https://cableshaft.newgrounds.com/ One thing Flash had that nothing else has really seemed to replicate as well since, is an environment that both coders and artists could use. I'd collaborate with an artist, they'd make their animations within an FLA, send it to me, and then I'd copy+paste into the project file, and it'd just work. I could even…

Original adobe tools for flash should still work on windiws/wine. Why don't people use them to make things?

Flash died once people no longer had a flash player. The tooling might also need updating if the apps being built are targeting today’s touch devices.

Re: Building a new Flash

#185

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Flash was great. Is there anything Flash could produce that wouldn't render these days with SVG + CSS + JS? I remember trying to produce a Flash renderer in C# when we wrote DudeFactory to render out the characters after you used the Flash app to put all their clothes and accessories on. I think we cheated in the end and pre-rendered large PNGs of them all and used .NET to just layer them all with instructions sent f…

Technically you may not even need js, since SVG has integral support for SMIL.

Have you ever tried that out? Last time I checked (some yeqrs ago) wide support (and performance) was not great but more importantly handling I found not great.

Support and performance might have improved, but I think the style is still ugly and good authoring tools non existent.

Re: Building a new Flash

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This post raises a few flags in my mind that it was at least partly generated by an LLM? That isn't to suggest that this editor doesn't/won't exist, that the editor uses LLM-generated code (which is not a sleight) or that the claims are not truthful. The main things that jump out are the inconsistency in writing style (sometimes doing all lowercase and no punctuation) but then the brief rundown is all perfect spellin…

https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LL...

> This document was written by an LLM (Claude) and then iteratively de-LLMed by that same LLM under instruction from a human, in a conversation that went roughly like this

This is hilarious.

Re: Building a new Flash

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This post raises a few flags in my mind that it was at least partly generated by an LLM? That isn't to suggest that this editor doesn't/won't exist, that the editor uses LLM-generated code (which is not a sleight) or that the claims are not truthful. The main things that jump out are the inconsistency in writing style (sometimes doing all lowercase and no punctuation) but then the brief rundown is all perfect spellin…

https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LL...

I don't like lists like these as I sometimes use half of the "signs" in my writing. And it would be trivial, feeding that list to a LLM and tell it to avoid that style.

Re: Building a new Flash

#188

Think in this day and age starting your project off saying it's open source but making sure to open the patreon first and take money before the repo is a bad start when the reason for the project existing is a closed source paid product is being discontinued. Especially if the dev is working on a sound editor, something Flash doesn't actually need before even having an outputted example up and running or even a video…

Having an integrated sound editor does sound like a nice to have feature, but I also would be rather interested in a working example.

Re: Building a new Flash

#189

I personally believe that Flash has had its day and should die a Hero, rather than be resurrected to become a villain. For being open-sourced, it was a pretty hot topic, especially at an interesting gathering inside Macromedia in the summer of 2005. Little did we know (or kinda) that it was going to take a different path with Adobe that Christmas. Honestly, I think, Flash kinda died way before the iPhone was released…

That different path was grim. Adobe wrecked or killed a lot of really good software after the buyout. Freehand and Fireworks were incredible for their day.

Re: Building a new Flash

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> the icons of the tools seems very likely to have been generated by a LLM They just look like bad rushed placeholder icons. And why does that immediately scream vibe-coded?

if you truly can't clock that this is AI written, you probably need to desperately develop this skill as soon as possible, because everything outside of the first sentence is so very, very clearly slop.

There are few types of people more annoying and less successful at changing anyone’s mind than those who are condescending while failing to understand the point being made.

Developing the skill to recognise when you’re being one is paramount to having fruitful conversations.

Unless, of course, one just cares about sounding right, not actually understanding the conversation and reaching a truthful conclusion.

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