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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by tredre3 »

littlestymaar wrote: post #154
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stallman is always right, and HN always downvotes it.

Publicly defending pedophilia arguably isn't “right”, but if you restrict Stallman's positions to software licensing, then I'd agree with you.

He was wrong about refusing to make gcc more modular by fear that it would be used to insert proprietary plugins, which is why llvm is behind every new language or dev tool now and gcc is only relevant because the kernel still depends on it (for now).

His opinions on software have been largely out of touch for the past 20 years. People might yearn for his ideals, but it's just not the world we live in.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by hluska »

lkey wrote: post #161
antonvs wrote: post #127

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> I doubt you are an actual member of the bourgeoisie I wouldn't be so sure of that on HN. (Also noting you're using the Marxist definition rather than the default dictionary definition, which is "middle class".) A well-paid tech employee with a non-trivial amount of company stock is, strictly speaking, an "owner of the means of production". Even if you want to quibble with that, their interests are certainly well-al…

You're right, it's probably just that. My mistake to read too deeply into someone like this. I was using Marx's definition, and I am a member of that class, so defined. My existing wealth and ongoing income of seven figures is derived almost entirely from capital accumulation. I am knowingly and actively betraying my immediate class interest, here and elsewhere, because I'd rather my wealth increase more modestly to…

How does missing the point and going on an unrelated rant help ensure we live in a vibrant society? Because I’m missing that part.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by peaseagee »

ux266478 wrote: post #171
littlestymaar wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly defending pedophilia arguably isn't “right”, but if you restrict Stallman's positions to software licensing, then I'd agree with you.

The only instance in which he's ever engaged in "publicly defending pedophilia" was in remarks he made 20 years ago about the innocuity of "voluntary" sex with minors. He has since retracted those statements and publicly espoused a different and more informed opinion. There's certainly a large amount of very low-quality journalism engaging in bad-faith interpretations of things he's said in other contexts, though the…

Tell that to my spouse who, at age 14, was given his contact card by him directly.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by ralferoo »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #37
dirk94018 wrote: post #19

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Extremely offtopic but I accidentally pasted the link linuxtoaster.com. (with the dot) and I thought it would lead to my search engine (DDG) or something but then the website opened. Then I tried opening up google.com. and this works too. I didn't know that websites resolve when you add another additional dot after TLD. This was a really fun coincidence type thing so I wanted to share it with you.

The final dot indicates that the name is fully qualified. Without a final dot, DNS looks up the name and if that fails, it tries again appending each of the suffixes specified in "search" in /etc/resolv.conf.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by czhu12 »

I've been developing and maintaining https://canine.sh and https://hellocsv.github.io/HelloCSV/ for some time now, and its really odd what pops up when you google these.

Neither of these projects anything requiring payment anywhere, but tons of sites pop up trying to "sell" these projects. I wouldn't even know what that means and I'm kind of tempted to drop in a credit card to see what happens. Would they auto send you a link to the public repo?

Most of it is quite lazy and haven't quite kept up with modern AI capabilities. They mostly just scrape the text I wrote, and present it with some screenshots that I created. I can imagine a future where

- really nice landing pages are generated

- the product is entirely rebranded

- marketing is automated (linkedin, google ads, etc)

and someone can develop some autonomous system that basically finds high quality, yet unknown open source projects, and redeploys it and sells it online for actual money.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by _aavaa_ »

shevy-java wrote: post #170
0_____0 wrote: post #155

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He's a terrible communicator, and sort of repellent in person. Contrast someone like Cory Doctorow who manages to be right about stuff and actually communicate effectively.

I don't really share that point. If the message is correct, why would the other things matter? Due to "social norms"? It is a similar problem with Code of Conducts. In general I don't care about CoCs. That does not mean I act in the opposite manner either - I just don't feel the need for CoCs.

> why would the other things matter

Because on the other end of the argument is an audience of human beings, not a theorem solver. Pretending that delivery does NOT matter, or even shouldn't matter, is out of touch with reality.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by spyder »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #102

I did some experimenting using different search engines and AIs. Here's the results: Google and Brave linked to the official GitHub repo followed by the fake domain. DuckDuckGo and Bing linked to the fake domain first, followed by the official GitHub. Mojeek gave higher ranking to two third party articles, but linked to both the official GitHub and website without fakes. Qwant was the worst, as the official website w…

For you... But the results are different for different users.

For me Google shows the .net site first the github one as second.

Asking chatgpt 5.2 (Auto mode) to search for the nanoclaw site, it says the same, first links the .net site and shows the github as an optional page. When I try to give it a hint by asking "are you sure?" it still even hallucinates that it's linked from the github:

"Yes — nanoclaw.net is the official documentation/site for the NanoClaw project, in the sense that it’s the project’s published homepage and is directly linked from its canonical open-source repository. It describes the project, features, installation steps, and links to the source code on GitHub, which is the authoritative source for the project’s codebase."

Chatgpt 5.2 (Thinking mode) and Claude gets it right the first try, they asnwer with the official .dev page first and claude shows the .net second as "another site covering the project".

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by jonathanstrange »

shevy-java wrote: post #169
nananana9 wrote: post #160

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If you want evil megacorps to give you money when they use your thing, maybe say "if you're an evil megacorp you have to give me money when you use my thing" in the license? If your license reads "hey, you can use this however you want, no matter who you are, and don't have to give me money", people will use it however they want, no matter who they are, and won't give you money. Unfortunately, for decades, free softw…

I agree that MIT may not be the best licence here in such a use case scenario. The question is why corporations think they can be leeches though - and the bigger, the more of a leech they are on the ecosystem. That's just not right.

IMHO, this is the wrong way of looking at it. You can choose any license you like. Choose the right license, and that should be the end of the discussion.

Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project

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Post by yieldcrv »

Gavriel is freaking out over nothing while making rookie mistakes pretending not to be in an SEO war

It's literally not his problem that some people click a scam link, he still has 18,000 github stars, its just a bifurcated audience of undiscerning people

He's overly worried about a perfect unanimous impression when he shouldn't

Now he's wasting his money on SEO tweaks and domain names while saying he only wants to code, then focus on coding! not buying obscure TLD's and vibecoding sitemaps while wondering what he did wrong

yeesh, some people can't handle a little fame

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