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President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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This might actually make Anthropic very popular among those who do not support the current US presidency, a significant market share.

Europe is a great market. To be fair, given Dario’s nationality, we should make a massive offer for Anthropic to relocate somewhere in Europe like San Marino or such. Levying taxes and letting them have all they need. (Joking, but to a point)

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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At this point I'm starting to wonder if the US military has only served to make my life worse, as an American. During my lifetime.

Were Bosnia (1992) and Serbia (1999) before your time?

Please be more specific about your point.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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Would love nothing more than for sama to refuse government contracts in solidarity. Free enterprise isn’t free

Oh yeah he's refusing out of solidarity alright :eyeroll: https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175?s=20 Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. In all of our interactions, the DoW displayed a deep respect for safety and a desire to partner to achieve the best possible outcome. AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mis…

What this confirms is that it was never about Anthropic's terms. The administration has a bigger issue with Anthropic and that was just an excuse to ditch them. What exactly the issue was I'm not sure. Maybe OAI paid off the right people.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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My first thought here was that Anthropic just became the first call for Europe to discuss AI services and infrastructure. I wonder if a US company has ever wholesale emigrated before?

Please note that mass surveillance of Europeans is fine from Anthropic's statement.

It's called political correctness. There is a longstanding undercurrent in American politics of treating Constitutional rights (aka natural rights) as only applicable to Americans [0]. Framing the issue in terms of lofty universal ideals would be politically suicidal. And with the current precarious situation, giving more energy to overly-simplistic jingoist chants is not what anybody needs.

[0] this seems to be a bit of proto-fascism that helped set the stage for the overt dynamic we've now got

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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You mean, stole it from Google’s internal labs.

Google is the Xerox Parc of AI, but unlike Xerox they decided to enter the ring with Gemini which is now quite good. (For those who don't know the history, Xerox Parc and SRI before them invented the modern PC GUI and a lot of other modern PC stuff in the late 70s and early 80s, which Apple copied and then everyone else copied from Apple. Xerox paid a lot for R&D but never used it at all since it would cannibalize th…

Meanwhile Google is murdering their websearch business with chatbots. Rightly so, as that business needs to die, or at least materially transform.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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My first thought here was that Anthropic just became the first call for Europe to discuss AI services and infrastructure. I wonder if a US company has ever wholesale emigrated before?

Please note that mass surveillance of Europeans is fine from Anthropic's statement.

Yeah it's a shitty statement "we're totally fine accidently targeting foreigners but come on, not 'mericans" because it's well known that once you have the capability it will be aimed at everyone anyway.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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Oh yeah he's refusing out of solidarity alright :eyeroll: https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175?s=20 Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. In all of our interactions, the DoW displayed a deep respect for safety and a desire to partner to achieve the best possible outcome. AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mis…

What this confirms is that it was never about Anthropic's terms. The administration has a bigger issue with Anthropic and that was just an excuse to ditch them. What exactly the issue was I'm not sure. Maybe OAI paid off the right people.

Addidionally: Why wasnt X.ai considered before Openai? also noted a lot of hate from Musk towards Anthropic lately.

Re: President Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems

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post #183

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Oh yeah he's refusing out of solidarity alright :eyeroll: https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175?s=20 Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. In all of our interactions, the DoW displayed a deep respect for safety and a desire to partner to achieve the best possible outcome. AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mis…

What this confirms is that it was never about Anthropic's terms. The administration has a bigger issue with Anthropic and that was just an excuse to ditch them. What exactly the issue was I'm not sure. Maybe OAI paid off the right people.

I don't think it does. It could just as well show openai accepted terms which are unacceptable for anthropic.

If they say "we define mass surveillance as flagging terrorist-looking people automatically with the Family Guy approach, but it's ok if a person types a name to look it up" then you can say "we agreed not to have mass surveillance by AI" or "that's still mass surveillance and we disagree with it".

Give Sam Altman's prior experience with worldcoin, I'm inclined to think he doesn't give a dime about mass surveillance.

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