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Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Indeed. Mark Zuckerberg has long said the administration pressured Facebook to censor COVID-related content, including satire and humor. And now the administration has ended public funding for NPR and PBS. Chilling effect It goes back even further, just see the 1941 FCC “Mayflower Decision” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower_doctrine

When you say "the administration", it's worth noting you're describing actions by two different administrations. Both political parties have tried to silence dissenting views through soft censorship.

No hes not.

He's describing the same administration in two different terms. Mark has no problems lying to people that Biden administration sued Meta (it was Trump's [1]) and individuals like Joe Rogan have no problems not calling him out on it.

Trump was president in 2019, 2020. Covid starts in 2019. It's his administration that the twitter files is talking about when they mention censorship. It's his administration that started the big tech lawsuits.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTC_v._Meta

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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This is arguably worse, isn't it? The administration gets to say that it was the network's own decision and that they had no role in it. Taking over news and public media with the help of oligarch buddies is much more effect than a public spat with them.

It's definitely worse, I'm just saying one shouldn't lay the blame entirely on the government here -- CBS is an eager partner in this, not a victim.

Sure but the government officials are our representatives so they hold special and unique responsibility for this situation.

As for the corpos.. Cancelled Disney and Hulu when Kimmel was taken off. Maybe it's time to cancel Paramount+ too.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Fear is the enforcement mechanism because it can't be challenged in court. It is long past time for everyone in tech to take a long hard look at the current situation and stop doing anything that financially benefits Musk, Ellison, or Thiel.

Chilling effect has a long history of being well considered as unconstitutional harm in the courts https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/

A history of anything in the courts doesn’t seem to be given too much consideration nowadays.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Chilling effect has a long history of being well considered as unconstitutional harm in the courts https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/

Who would have standing to challenge this though?

There is no "who", once stabilizing institutions 'fall' the only remaining option is social pressure (which can come in various forms) but that does require a critical mass as it's very much reliant on network effects.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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This is a terrifying level of chilling effects. What are we to consider about our nation at this point? "Free speech" has long been a term with contested definitions, but this certainly sounds like its death in every sense.

The shift from democracy to dictatorship isn't a cliff that a lot of people imagine it to be. It's a gradual slide with no abrupt changes in between. If you're waiting for a signal, you'll get it at the bottom of the ramp.

When does a pile become a heap?

When they come for YOU.

Seriously this is why people use to take every government transgression and overreach so seriously. Now multiple times a day it's something that would have been a straight SCANDAL in the past.

It's happening right now y'all because it was always happening and will always happen without constant push back.

Don't wait!

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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That's why the rightward shift is unavoidable and corporate Dems like Talarico only further this shift into fascism. Even if liberals win it only means the next right-wing candidate is going to be even more extreme than the last. People think that's crazy talk, even though it's happening right in front of their faces since Obama, we're cooked.

AOC has just improves her ranking big time in the last few days. If she keeps this up she 'maybe' she has a shot at the White House (maybe, its going to be a long two years). Think about it: A bernie Sanders type candidate not taking corporate PAC money is currently in the running for the White House! We saw with Mamdani they will throw everything at her. Will she falter? Hope not but feeling better than I have felt…

Obvious question: How is she going to get anything past the gridlocked Congress and hostile Supreme Court? Obama often couldn't after the midterms, and it's much worse this time.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Comedians have a knack for succinctly expressing the truth: > "Let's just call this what it is: Donald Trump's administration wants to silence anyone who says anything bad about Trump on TV because all Trump does is watch TV," Colbert joked.

Technically doesn't Trump also spend a lot of time golfing, and attending events where people praise Trump - admittedly for broadcast on TV but not necessarily while watching TV? I see that it's become harder to track because the White House doesn't disclose what he's doing as much, but yeah, lots of golf still.

Sure, jokes are often technically incorrect while performing a directionally-correct summation of the truth of the matter.

But also, the few times I've been unfortunate enough to have to go to mega golf venues, the clubhouses generally have TVs prominently all over the place. So there is quite the demographic overlap.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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Rough spot in time to be: - Once print newspapers were no longer a thing, even local news outlets are struggling to stay alive, and are resulting to sensationalism and entertainment as news - Corporate sponsors retain a huge influence in mainstream news (or have outright purchased it and use it for partisan politics). - "Social" media resides in (you guessed it) corporate-owned walled gardens. - Even those willing to…

Not all the legacy newspapers are failing; NYT is doing well. There are other news sources beyond legacy newspapers, broadcasters, local news, and social media. There are wire services (AP, Reuters), insider access journalism (Axios, Punchbowl, Semafor), public media (NPR, PBS, BBC), investigative journalism (ProPublica), digital-first outlets (Politico, Vox), and the growing wave of small, indie , creator-led media…

NYT is doing well because of Wordle and all other games; their journalism is a joke.

Re: CBS didn't air Rep. James Talarico interview out of fear of FCC

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AOC has just improves her ranking big time in the last few days. If she keeps this up she 'maybe' she has a shot at the White House (maybe, its going to be a long two years). Think about it: A bernie Sanders type candidate not taking corporate PAC money is currently in the running for the White House! We saw with Mamdani they will throw everything at her. Will she falter? Hope not but feeling better than I have felt…

Obvious question: How is she going to get anything past the gridlocked Congress and hostile Supreme Court? Obama often couldn't after the midterms, and it's much worse this time.

We're seeing with Mamdani, who was elected with a massive mandate, that he can get things done despite a hostile state government that clearly didn't want him to get elected. Obama had a mandate, yet he didn't use it. Looking back, we should have seen this coming when he was mentored by people like Joe Liberman, and we immediately saw the results when he was tested in one of his first goals (healthcare). He dropped the public option immediately and implemented a Heritage Foundation plan(Yeah the Project2025 heritage foundation).

You can do a lot when you have a mandate and you are determined to get things done. How to determine if a candidate is like this? After many cycles of election in my experience there is only one reliable barometer. The only determining factor seems to be money in politics. If your candidate has corporate contributions, you can pretty much guarantee that nothing is going to get done. On the other side, we've seen non‑corporate‑backed candidates actually try, at the very least.

Now, talking about the actual specifics of how you get past a gridlocked Congress and a hostile Supreme Court: with the advantage of being at the top of the party, you have the ability to whip your party into falling in line. We saw this with FDR. He wasn't pulling any punches. If someone got in his way, including the Supreme Court, he made their lives miserable. One of the reasons bernie people feel fond of him.

A lot of these politicians are only there for the corporate donations and in hopes of a job afterwards. So a very low‑hanging fruit is to go after the corporations that are donating to the politician who is holding things up. Make the public aware that this SOB is the one holding up plans that are very popular. Do what Trump did: go into that person's district and get his voters to realize that this is the person that's holding everything up.

For example, paid family‑leave polls show ~71% overall support, including Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. Yet when Biden campaigned on it and then immediately dropped it at the first sign, it showed that he didn't even try.

A lot can be done if the candidate actually tries.

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